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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Russell Findlay

Is the civil service working on both potential scenarios?

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Russell Findlay

When is the procurement process due to conclude?

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Russell Findlay

That is what I was trying to establish. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

Good morning. In your submission, you talk about the “historic high” that remand is at—it is up to 30 per cent—but you concede that remanding people is sometimes necessary. Have you given any thought to what level would be comfortable or reasonable for your organisation?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

Do the other two witnesses have a view on that?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

The latest remand figures for Scotland show that almost 30 per cent of people in prison are on remand—the figure is in the region of 1,862 of a population of 7,500. The rate is much higher than rates elsewhere in the United Kingdom and in most other comparable western European countries, and nobody can explain to us why that is the case. Yesterday, the governor of HMP Edinburgh, David Abernethy, was quoted on the BBC as saying that it is a “mystery”. Can you explain the mystery? Why is that the case?

Anyone can go first, if they feel like it. If nobody wants to, I will pick someone.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

In the final page of your submission, Keith, you talk about the expanded role of criminal justice social work. Its workload will increase hugely if the bill goes through as is, in terms of bail, pre-trial, pre-release, release and, indeed, onwards. You go on to say that it is not yet known whether criminal justice social work will be part of the proposed new national care service, which is already mired in a significant amount of controversy.

I have two questions. First, does anyone know how much all the additional work for criminal justice social work will cost? Secondly, should the changes be given time to bed in and develop before we even think about incorporating criminal justice social work into a national care service, or should the national care service come first and should these needs be factored into it?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

Should criminal justice social work be part of the national care service?

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

I do not know whether we have time to hear from anyone else, convener.

Criminal Justice Committee

Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Russell Findlay

So you are saying that legislation is necessary.