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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

With respect, cabinet secretary, that is not a statutory requirement that is funded by the Government, which is what the manifesto said would happen. That is the good will of some schools that are using PEF—which is already stretched to the limit—rather than the Government funding a pledge that it made in its manifesto.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It was your commitment, cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, cabinet secretary—I do not think that I said that earlier. Thank you for your contributions so far.

You will be well aware of the importance that I place on non-contact time for teachers. How will the 2024-25 budget support the aim to reduce contact time for teachers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not disagree that it is not the whole answer, but it is the answer that you gave me.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a final question, if I have your permission, convener.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. I suspect that it might be about recruitment issues or geographical issues. I expect that you will get back a whole host of reasons, which will be interesting. However, where the money was given to local authorities and they did not maintain the numbers, are you also asking whether they deployed it to the education budget to address some of the other challenges that we have already discussed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is just a brief supplementary, convener.

When I speak to colleges, they tell me that, in order to make efficiencies through reform, they might need some additional funding up front. However, there is nothing for that in the budget. How do you think that colleges will be able to make those efficiencies in the long term without that funding?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Maybe I can help the cabinet secretary out about the projections for next year, because if, according to the budget, £28 million is to come out of universities, the chances are that there will be 3,800 fewer students next year than there were this year. I find that intolerable, and I hope that the cabinet secretary does, too.

The Government’s detailed analysis of the budget says:

“Changes in the college and HE resource budgets risk reducing education and skills training opportunities for young people, and for older people seeking to upskill.â€

How does that meet the principle of opportunity and equality?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I can help with that. The figure that you have given for the Covid increase is 1,200, but removing those places saves only £5 million. Universities have £28 million to save, so if we make the comparison, we see that there will be another 2,600 fewer students next year. That means that, because of Government cuts, fewer Scottish students will be able to study at Scottish universities.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It was your Government’s commitment.