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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you have a view on whether that should be opt in or opt out?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I know that we are tight for time, but does Margaret Smith have anything to add to what we have already heard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Lynne O’Brien, you said in your evidence that many professionals who are already involved in young people’s lives will consider themselves to be advocating for the young person. Do you see a distinction between some of those professionals and an independent advocate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. I will move on to ask some detailed questions about advocacy. Laura Pasternak, I will start with you and then go to Margaret Smith.

The advocacy provisions in the bill, which are mainly in section 4, are shaped by a lot of secondary legislation. Some of the responses that we have had highlight the potential for confusion with section 18, which relates to information on advocacy in the hearings system. Is there anything that you think absolutely needs to be in the bill? Margaret Smith talked about a definition of independent advocacy. Should anything else on advocacy be in the bill? How does it relate to information on advocacy in the hearings system?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

On the lifelong advocacy point, do you think that we need further information in the bill about when someone has access to advocacy and who has access to advocacy, or do you think that regulation is the space in which to do that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. On that, do you think that it should be independent advocacy or legal advocacy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Laura Pasternak, how would that approach interact with an approach involving independent advocacy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning—I think it is still morning. I feel like I have been here so long that I am wondering whether it is still Wednesday.

I appreciate the witnesses’ answers so far. I will ask a general question before I move to general questions on aftercare and, potentially, advocacy—the convener can keep me right as to which area I should focus on.

A number of submissions pick out the issue with the UNCRC. We have just been really clear on the record about what that issue is. However, further to that, the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland submission says that the bill has the potential to have a negative impact. Kate Thompson, will you set out a little bit more for us about what that negative impact could be and whether there are ways to mitigate it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Convener, in the interests of flow and time, is it your expectation that I will move on to questions of advocacy or aftercare?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Correct me if I am putting different words in your mouth, but I think that you said just a moment ago that some of the costings were unrealistic. What would be more realistic?