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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That was helpful鈥攖hank you.

I would like to ask one final question, if that is okay, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I appreciate that. I also appreciate your important reminder that the bill is about what we can do for trans people.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Your point about the impact on trans people is crucial with regard to not only post-legislative scrutiny but how trans people enjoy their human rights. I am particularly pleased to hear about the focus on the bill itself and what it actually does as opposed to other areas.

I have another question that touches on your point about representation. I have seen and am convinced by Close the Gap鈥檚 evidence, but can you set out for the record your understanding of the recent legal cases on the census and representation on public boards?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I can see that there will be such circumstances, but I just cannot work out what they might be or why a tribunal would be privy to a piece of information that an individual would not yet know. I get that it could cause the person harm but, in the circumstances of the particular tribunal, I am not sure that I can imagine a reason or rationale for withholding that information.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have just one question. Are you in a position to set out what the rationale and grounds would be for withholding information from someone, and what the test would be for that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you; that is no problem at all. It seems to be the case with a lot of the discussion on this issue. Karon, do you have anything further to add?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry, Naomi. Does Sharon Cowan have anything to add on the particular point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yes鈥攊t is probably for all three of you, but feel free to go first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to reflect briefly on Naomi Cunningham鈥檚 point about women wondering whether there is a toilet that they can access safely. Let me say that, as a disabled woman, I experience that, and it is horrible to worry about whether you will be able to access a toilet. We need to get this right. I imagine that trans women and trans men, too, go through a similar experience when they leave the house, in that they wonder whether they will be able to access a toilet or changing room. Do you agree that part of the solution will be to have inclusive and private spaces?