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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

A number of my questions have been answered鈥攊n particular, on the employability aspects. However, there are a couple of other areas that I would like to explore.

Morag Treanor, in your written submission, you highlight some concerns about the pace and scale of action that is needed if we are to meet the targets that have been set by the Parliament. Will you tell us a bit more about what you would expect, notwithstanding the comments that you have already made around there not being enough information for you to know whether the Government is doing what it said that it would do?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My other question is about your concerns about concessionary travel. I saw the points that you made about worries that that budget might be made on the basis of reduced patronage because of difficulties. Do you have any suggestions on how we could progress that, what we could do, and how to address that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for that. I have no further questions in this area.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. That has come across in what you have said and in the Audit Scotland report.

What engagement did you have with the Government on the spending review in June and with the DFM on the Government鈥檚 announcements two weeks ago?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank the witnesses for their answers so far and for the written evidence that they submitted in advance. I also thank them for the work that they are doing. I say that not just because of what they have always been doing, but because the context that they have just set out is pretty grim. To do the work that they do daily must be really hard. Listening to the stories of the people whom they represent and to whom they provide services must also be really hard.

I agree with much that has been said about the UK Government鈥檚 paralysis and inaction. It has not addressed the scale of the challenge and it absolutely needs to do more. I will reserve some of my comments for another moment.

On what the Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government can do for organisations, at the Gathering in June, the First Minister committed again to multiyear funding for third sector organisations. I ask Paul Bradley to set out the progress that he has seen since she made that commitment.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. I have no further questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I know that a number of schools in South Lanarkshire have done the same. There are examples of where that can be done, and it is really helpful that you have set that out in that way.

My final question in that area touches on the organisational issue that we spoke about earlier on. Some of the submissions say that, when local government is cash strapped鈥攚hich it is鈥攊t tends to fund only that which it is required to fund through statutory provision. My concern is about third sector organisations and the work that they do in particular. I know that it is early days, but have you heard of any indication that the flat cash settlement might have an impact on some of your organisations? Do you have any plans to monitor that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I thank Alison Hosie and Sarah Cowan for joining us and for the information that they submitted in advance, which is, as ever, really helpful.

My first question is for Alison Hosie, but Sarah Cowan might also want to comment. Has the Government maximised its available resources to deliver on human rights outcomes?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you have a sense of what you would do in balancing that? Maybe you do not and it is a really difficult question. However, how would you balance giving enough funding and uplifts to continue what is already being done, against starting to fund new projects? How could we, as a committee, and the Government begin to try and address that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sara, in your written submission, you talk a lot about unpaid carers and the impact that the care economy can have on women鈥檚 poverty. What support for unpaid carers have you been able to identify from the budget?