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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

[Inaudible.]—Deputy First Minister, the question. I would love to debate those issues with you at length, but we do not have enough time to go into them. My questions were about how you made the decisions in the budget that you currently control. I would really appreciate reassurance on the record, because a number of organisations are looking for that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Savings and Reductions 2022-23

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Those organisations would offer and have offered alternatives, so I would not characterise that as complaining; rather, it is a plea to be involved in the process. Witnesses last week and before have told us that the process was opaque and untransparent, and that they were not able to get involved in it. They want the reassurance that they will have a meaningful conversation with you about the budget.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you both for the evidence that you have given so far and for your submissions.

Most of my questions on the cost of living have already been covered, with the exception of one. How have not only your membership but your organisations been affected by the cost of living crisis?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry, convener—perhaps we could start with Graham O’Neill.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning. Thank you for your submissions and your answers so far.

My first question is for Frank McKillop. In a similar vein to my colleague Natalie Don, I wonder whether you can set out some of the realities of what disabled people are having to do in the cost of living crisis, particularly in relation to fuel poverty. How is it affecting what they do on a daily basis?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sure. I will move on to the spending priorities.

Employability has already been mentioned—I think that Frank McKillop raised that issue. Frank, are you aware of any impact that the employability cuts will have on the employability services that you deliver?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. That is really helpful and clear.

I have a similar question about spending priorities for Gordon MacRae. In your submission, you highlighted that there has been a 17 per cent rise in children’s homelessness. That is tragic. You also noted that the flat cash settlement is setting councils up to fail. Do you have concerns about any of the priorities in the recent DFM cuts or the flat cash settlements in relation to the “Tackling Child Poverty Delivery Plan 2022-26”, particularly in housing?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That was really clear. Sarah Cowan, do you have anything to add?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you, Dr Hosie. Do you have anything to add, Sara?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 22 September 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. Did you want to come in, too, Ed?