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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

I appreciate that, Sir Jonathan. Dr Tucker, do you have a view on the ratcheting effect, which can move only in one direction if the use of secondary powers for enhancements is not available?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

It seems as though the power of determining that is entirely with the executive, and therein lies the risk of democratic overreach.

I emphasise that the UK Government’s position is—this is stated in the note from the Cabinet Office—that

“the power is required as there are approximately 2000 pieces of secondary retained EU law, including RDEUL, that the Government may wish to replace with legislation more suited to the UK’s needs. Doing so purely through sector specific primary legislation would take a significant amount of Parliamentary time.”

Its justification is that there is not enough capacity in the Parliament to handle that process. I assume, and you might agree, that that is an overly generalised position and that there probably is more capacity and a bit more nuance to it all. Do you agree, Sir Jonathan?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Before he does, I will add a supplementary question. If ministers were to choose not to bring forward replacement legislation, would there be any opportunity at all for Parliament to scrutinise their decision? Please also feel free to make a general comment in relation to the discussion so far.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Morag Ross, do you have any points to add?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

That is quite an alarming realisation—that there could potentially be wholesale destruction of legislation in that way.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

On the issue of the general powers, the Cabinet Office’s response says:

“The Retained EU Law Substance review has indicated a distinct lack of subordinate legislation making powers to remove REUL from the UK statute book where appropriate, and if required replace that provision with legislation that is more fit for purpose for the UK.”

It gives a reason for that:

“Had the UK never been a member of the EU, many of the areas identified by the substance review would likely already have similar powers to comparable non EU policy areas to amend. The lack of powers is therefore an oddity created by our EU membership”.

That seems to be saying that the extraordinary situation is that the retained EU law does not provide the same provisions in secondary legislation. Would you agree with that assessment, Sir Jonathan, or perhaps Dr Tucker?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Thank you. I want to probe further on the scenario in which the Government did not introduce replacement legislation. As far as I can see, the Parliament would have no capacity whatever to influence that, and it would not be able to perform any form of scrutiny on the revocation of legislation. There might be a difference if the Government were to introduce replacement legislation, which would perhaps provide a mechanism, but if it were simply to revoke laws through secondary measures, there are no means whatever to scrutinise the impacts.

Do you have a view on that, Sir Jonathan?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Yes.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Thank you for that, Dr Tucker.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Paul Sweeney

Another key point about support from our pharmacy network more generally was about ensuring that people who are released from custody or those who are caring for them if they have a support network are provided with naloxone. The evidence that has been provided has indicated that that is a patchy practice. What is the minister doing to ensure that it is more of a standard protocol?

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