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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

The recruitment crisis in social care is another major issue that has been fed back strongly to the committee. The programme for government included a commitment to a pay rise to ÂŁ12 per hour for social care staff. If the Government had acted when calls for the rise to ÂŁ12 per hour were made three years ago, that increased level would now be worth almost ÂŁ14 per hour, after inflation. Does the cabinet secretary think that that is sufficient to address the scale of the recruitment and retention issues in social care, bearing in mind the opportunity cost of not acting?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

I want to pick up on the work of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee on its inquiry into dentistry services in Scotland. A number of stakeholders are concerned about those. For example, the British Dental Association said that

“uncertainty remains around whether”

the Scottish Government’s reform proposals will be enough to

“halt the exodus of dentists from NHS services”.

In my own experience, my recent check-up was cancelled for the first time ever because the permanent dentist had left the practice and it was relying on locums to cover appointments.

What is the Scottish Government doing to implement the recommendations of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee’s inquiry into NHS dental services, particularly on consideration of costing service model options?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

Okay. That is disappointing.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

I thank the cabinet secretary for that response. The Royal College of Nursing strongly fed back the point that nurses in training felt that they were not able to continue with their studies because of the financial costs. Having an employee status at the outset under an apprenticeship-led model would offer a way of remedying that.

Another major issue that has been fed back is the abolition of non-residential care charges. That was raised very strongly by stakeholders. Non-residential care charges are still in place, with the cost in Glasgow almost doubling. There was no mention of care charges in the programme for government, despite the strain of the cost of living crisis and its impact on some very vulnerable people. Is ending non-residential care charges still a priority for the Scottish Government, or is that not on the radar at the moment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

We have had a lot of correspondence from members of the public as a result of our call for feedback on the state of the national health and social care system and mental health in Scotland, particularly on waiting times for child and adolescent mental health services. Waiting times data for the most recent quarter shows that 73.8 per cent of children and young people were seen by CAMHS within 18 weeks. That figure is lower than that for the previous quarter, and it falls short of the Scottish Government’s target of 90 per cent of people being seen within 18 weeks. I understand that the delivery plan for the mental health strategy will look at when boards can reach the waiting times standard, but will that plan be accompanied by funding so that health boards can build the required capacity to meet that target effectively?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

Could you tell us a bit more about the mechanisms that you are looking to deploy to ensure greater consistency and reduce variation? What specific operational changes do you propose to make?

I recognise that you cannot commit to specific funding at this stage, given that it is not necessarily in your gift alone as the cabinet secretary, but there is the broader objective of allocating at least 10 per cent of expenditure to mental health, as set out in your party’s manifesto and the Bute house agreement. Is the end of the current parliamentary session still the target? Will there be a commitment to that 10 per cent target, or will there be a proposed cut in real terms to the mental health budget?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

I want to touch on some points that are made in the written submissions about potential waste in the healthcare system. The most valuable commodity in the national health service is time, but Community Pharmacy Scotland reports in its submission that

“Community pharmacists did not have read and write access ... to the patient ... record”

so they had to email or write to GPs with details of any changes. That antiquated process is taking up pharmacists’ time, and CPS says that it creates a “risk” in that patients might seek “further treatment” before their records are updated.

That is just one example. Other blockages came to light last winter that could be remedied with the support of technology. On the point about obvious waste in the system—CPS’s view is just one that has been highlighted—do you find other examples of difficulties that would benefit from parliamentary support?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

That leads on quite well to my other question on the issue. I have heard, particularly from GPs in Glasgow, that people are so busy firefighting in their clinics day to day that their practices simply do not have enough time to consider innovations or improvements. That is a real frustration, because they know that digital solutions could help to alleviate some of the pressures that are facing primary care. The written submissions refer to digital care technologies such as NHS Near Me. Do any of you have views on how we can create a space not just to deploy technology, but to allow people to be trained and the technology to be embedded, particularly in primary care settings? I see that David Gibson has put up his hand.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

You mentioned NHS Fife and the example in NHS Lanarkshire. When there are examples of good outputs being achieved and clear evidence that they reflect good performance, how does the system or the span of control at the Scottish level capture that and normalise it across the health board territories? There is quite a cluttered landscape—shall we say?—of management structures.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Paul Sweeney

A number of the written submissions question how data from previous years has been used to evaluate the impact of winter planning and identify gaps and opportunities for improvement. It is clear that there are multiple concerns regarding last year’s plan alone.

One of the recommendations in the submission from Public Health Scotland and the Scottish directors of public health group is to

“Stop things that have not worked and not introduce anything that has not been evaluated in a robust way”.

Ahead of this year’s plan, has the Scottish Government undertaken any assessment of what has and has not worked well in previous winter plans? Can you highlight some examples?