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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

The Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee is considering petition PE2049, which calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce buffer zones outside migrant accommodation to protect occupants from demonstrations by anti-migrant groups. Although it noted that there were a number of issues to be dealt with, the Scottish Government has committed to looking into the feasibility of that proposal, so that is another case that might be worth considering.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Thank you very much, Alina. I now invite Isabel to address the committee.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Ross, I should just advise that Isabel Vaughan-Spruce and Dr Pickering would like to come in, too.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

We are right out of time. I really appreciate that the witnesses have stayed longer. It was a worthwhile exercise. If there is any additional information that you would like to share with us in relation to our scrutiny of the bill, please write to us.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:02 Meeting suspended.  

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

I believe that Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, Alina Dulgheriu and Dr Pickering wish to respond.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Eilidh Dickson has an additional point to make.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2024 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. I have received no apologies. The convener is unable to attend today’s meeting physically and will therefore join us remotely, so I will convene the meeting as deputy convener.

Today, the committee will take evidence from two panels on the Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill. As she is the member in charge of the bill, Gillian Mackay MSP will not participate in the committee’s scrutiny of the bill by virtue of rule 9.13A.2(b) of standing orders. Ross Greer will attend in her place as a committee substitute by virtue of rule 12.2A.2 of standing orders.

In our first evidence session, we will explore the impact of the bill for those who are against the introduction of safe access zones. Before we begin, I will provide a brief introduction to the session. The evidence that we will hear today will be in relation to the proposed establishment of safe access zones, and we will hear from individuals with lived experience as a consequence. As such, some of the content of this meeting might be sensitive or potentially distressing, and the committee encourages anyone who is affected by any of the issues discussed today to seek support. If anyone needs to take a break during the session, they should indicate that to me.

I welcome to the meeting Margaret Akers, who is the services co-ordinator of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children in Scotland, and Bishop John Keenan, who is vice-president of the Bishops’ Conference of Scotland and the Bishop of Paisley—they are both attending in person. I also welcome Alina Dulgheriu, Isabel Vaughan-Spruce and Dr Mark Pickering, who is chief executive of the Christian Medical Fellowship, who are attending virtually.

Thank you all for giving evidence to the committee this morning. I know that some of you are sharing personal experiences. We appreciate your joining us to help to inform the committee’s scrutiny of the bill. Please note that there is no pressure or expectation to share anything that you are not comfortable with. Again, please let us know if you would like to take a break at any point.

I understand that Alina and Isabel will begin by setting out their experiences and views on the proposed establishment of safe access zones. I invite Alina to address us first.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

We now move to questions from members, and I invite Ivan McKee to start.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

I will quickly bring in Alina Dulgheriu and then come to Bishop Keenan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

We are reaching the halfway point of proceedings, and there are three witnesses who wish to comment on that issue. I invite Dr Pickering and the two witnesses who are in the room to comment. We can then move on.