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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I want to go back to the processes that are in place at the moment. In the course of the committee鈥檚 evidence sessions, many suggestions have been made about how to handle the situation. There is the idea of a regional by-election, which we have discussed. Other witnesses have said that if recall triggers are met by a regional MSP, they should automatically be disqualified and replaced by the next person on the list. What are your thoughts on those proposals? Are you likely to consider changes to that process for stage 2?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Currently, for regional members there is a two-step process in which people would first have to sign a recall petition and then there would be a yes or no ballot on whether to remove the member. A suggestion has been made to put those steps together into a one-step process, which would mean that electors would have the opportunity to say yes or no from the beginning. There have been suggestions that that might improve secrecy around the recall petition. If you go to sign a recall petition, everybody knows that you are going to try to remove that MSP. There is no option to turn up and support them. What are your thoughts on that proposal?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

If you want to measure the strength of feeling and test what constituents want, surely we need a yes or no process. It could be that 20 per cent of constituents sign the recall petition but 40 per cent of constituents are against it.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I think that people will conflate the two because, whichever way you go about it, comparisons will be made. One suggestion that was made to the committee was that a full regional by-election be held. It was pointed out to us that if somebody is upset with the conduct of an individual MSP, they might also want to hold the relevant party to account鈥攁lthough that is not the primary objective of your bill, of course. Although people have that opportunity in a constituency by-election, they do not have it on the regional side, where the party directly replaces the individual concerned. Do you have concerns about that disparity?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

You are talking about fairness and saying that if we do something on the constituency side it should happen on the regional side. Currently, the bill provides for a by-election on the constituency side in which the recalled member can stand but not one on the regional side. If you had a one-step process on both sides, they would be closer to each other than the current proposal.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Can you see that there is a difference? The parliamentary calendar works for those who want to attend or observe Christian holidays, but it does not work in the same way for other religions.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Okay.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Why not?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I want to pick up on that. As you said, the requirement to attend at least once in 180 days is not particularly onerous. My concern is that, because the requirement is not a high bar for somebody who is physically and mentally able and does not have caring responsibilities, it is likely that the only people you would catch with the provision would be those with good reasons for not attending, and they would then have to share those good reasons with colleagues who were in political opposition to them. Do you agree that that is a possibility?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Okay. I will pass over to Sue Webber.