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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

In response to my first question, Shona Robison said that the 2015 commission on local tax reform had some good recommendations but did not propose anything specific. How much you are going to look at those recommendations as part of the process, rather than reinventing the wheel?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is good to hear that you recognise that.

I will move on and bring in other members.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

On your comment about people鈥檚 reactions to tax, we are, in a way, in an unfortunate situation. In thinking about how we become a modern and progressive Scotland, we often look to the Nordic countries, but what they show is that taxation is really important for all the public services that make life good for everybody. Perhaps, as part of the process of considering the council tax, we have an opportunity to give people a better understanding of what it actually does.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is interesting. As you say, income tax comes out of people鈥檚 wages, so they must see it, but there is something about council tax that makes it very prominent. Having reflected on our previous evidence sessions, I wonder whether it is because council tax has a historical link to the poll tax, which was so controversial. Perhaps that is it. Shona Robison, do you have anything to add?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up on the scope of the engagement. The idea of percentages came up at our meeting on 18 February. Would you consider talking to people about that? There are challenges with that idea and no one is necessarily advocating it, but what was said during that meeting suggests that a percentage system could be more proportionate and potentially fairer than the current banding system.

Would you be prepared to open up the engagement process to include discussion of that idea, so that people can understand that banding is not the only option? It might be the one that we end up with, but there could be other options.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds like one of the good next steps.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on the 20 per cent IFS figure鈥攖he people whom it identified as being potential losers. In part of your collaboration and work together, will you try to dig into that data, to get an understanding of what the percentage really is?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am glad to hear you say that we do not want to be here in a year鈥檚 time without having achieved anything. There is a sense of relief in the committee鈥攁nd perhaps among our adoring fans, who are watching鈥攁bout that.

Emma Roddick has a couple of questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the 7th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

Our first agenda item is to decide whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds great. Alexander Stewart has a brief supplementary question.