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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I do not see anyone else indicating that they want to come in on that question. It seems that Emma Saunders has covered it well.

We will seamlessly move on to our questions on RAAC. Fulton MacGregor, if you want to continue with that, that would be great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Certainly, the committee has been interested in the idea of keeping an inventory of what goes into houses and that kind of thing.

Emma Saunders wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Does anybody else want to come in on that one briefly, or has Yvette Hoskins covered it? Certainly, 3,000 people is a lot of people to meet.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is great. You have been quiet for so long and now you get the opportunity. It is wonderful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yvette, you are doing such a great job. Thank you.

I have a final question about the impact that the presence of RAAC in homes is having on owners’ and tenants’ ability to obtain building and contents insurance. You touched on that and on mortgages, but my question is specifically about insurance. I have a further, connected question. Is there anything that you think the Scottish Government could do to support people in the affected properties in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

For our second panel this morning we are joined by Peter Drummond, who is the chair of the practice committee at the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland, and Gloria Lo of OiSA Designs, who is a chartered architect. We will try to direct our questions to one or other of you specifically, but please do indicate to the clerks if you would like to come in. There is no need for you to operate your microphones; we will do that for you.

We will start with damp and mould and, before we get into specific questions about tenants and landlords and what people should or should not be doing, I thought that it would be good if we could get a bit of an understanding of the technical issues.

Gloria Lo, I am particularly directing this question at you. Some of those issues were highlighted earlier by the previous panel. I think that Shona Gorman mentioned that we need to get to the underbelly of the issue before we start saying, “This is what we should be doing.” It seems that that is part of the problem: we do not fully understand everything. I will give you a little bit of time to open that up, then we will come to a number of other questions in this area.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. Thank you very much for that. I found that useful and I hope that colleagues did, too. There are specific points, such as how we design a home that keeps us out of that zone of 13°C and 80 to 83 per cent humidity, that are potentially quite an interesting challenge.

Now we will get into some of our other questions. Peter Drummond, feel free to come in on this one. I would be interested to hear whether you have any views on how landlords in Scotland are addressing damp and mould in properties that they own. Are there any examples of good practice or are there other approaches that could be taken to deal with the problem?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Can I ask you to explain tanking briefly?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Before we move on to RAAC, something else comes to my mind. Gloria talked about building on flood plains and building too close to slopes. In my region—the Highlands and Islands—we have a lot of peatland, and I am seeing brand new housing estates being built on peatland.

If we identify damp and mould, can we map it? Is a map emerging that shows us where damp and mould are appearing? Could we map obvious places such as I have mentioned to see the pattern of where we have the problem, then tackle it more proactively through recognising where developers are building on land that might not be appropriate? That is one question.

Also, how can we make sure that we are not using inappropriate pieces of land for housing developments? Could we, as you mentioned, build houses on stilts, for example, and make sure that building standards approve the right type of design intervention for a place?

Could we do something about mapping damp and mould patterns across Scotland? Is anything like that going on, and would it be useful?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is consideration of the Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2025 (SSI 2025/56). Do members have any comments on the instrument?

There are no comments. Does the committee agree that we do not wish to make any recommendations on the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.