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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much.

This has been a very useful conversation. We have gone from highlighting high-level matters such as land being a key issue to the question of infrastructure and the concept that housing is not just about building houses but about the place making aspect. In rural and island communities, the approach cannot just be about sticking up a whole load of houses; our witnesses have touched on the need for place making. We must ask ourselves how we can fund such aspects if there is money for housing but not for shared common spaces such as live-and-work settings. It has been fantastic to hear Mark Rodgers drill down into the figures and describe the reality of how we can fund housing when the cost starts to get up towards £250,000 per unit. There are also different challenges in places such as the Isle of Rum.

We are grateful to our four witnesses for giving us their differing perspectives, including Roslyn Clarke’s view on how the Applecross community has enabled aspects of housing there and Donna Birrell’s and Mark Rodgers’s perspectives on a slightly larger scale. Thank you so much for coming—I was about to thank everyone for coming in, but some of us have joined the meeting via Teams. It is very much appreciated.

I suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:53 Meeting suspended.  

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

I call Marie McNair.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

On Donna Birrell’s comment, a company in Barra, in the Western Isles, is using modern methods of construction and will be supplying the houses for six of the smart clachans in South Uist. Building in a factory can be done on a small scale—I have become aware of quite a few companies across the Highlands that are delivering on a small scale, and it is really working for them. More discussion around that would be great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Mark, do you have any further questions?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Mark Griffin, do you have any more questions?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. Mark Rodgers, is the picture similar in Highland Council? How is it going there for you?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you—that is helpful. The point is that we are seeing increased housing pressure in Inverness because people are having to leave rural areas. I take your point that we need to get the right houses in the right places. It seems like we need to drill down to another level and take that into account.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for your response. Those examples are very helpful, and I have made notes to learn more about those places. We recently had a visit to Govan, where something similar is going on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for those responses to the question about the challenges that you face, which also touched on some other areas.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is great to hear your articulation of the new procurement, business and economic models. We have heard from this panel of witnesses and the previous one that the land issue underpins everything, so we must tackle that.

We will have to leave it there, for now. We have had another very useful conversation about affordable housing, which the committee is keen to continue pursuing. Thank you for joining us and sharing your perspectives.

I suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

12:17 Meeting suspended.  

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