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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

Agenda item 2 is to take evidence on the Scottish social housing charter, November 2022 from the Minister for Zero Carbon Buildings, Active Travel and Tenants’ Rights, Patrick Harvie. Mr Harvie is accompanied by Michael Boal of the Scottish Government’s social housing charter and regulation team. I welcome Mr Harvie to the meeting.

Before I open up the session to questions from members—if anyone has any questions—I invite Mr Harvie to make a short opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that opening statement and for setting out a range of aspects of this topic. We have a number of questions to take the conversation to a deeper level.

Before I bring in other members, I will lead with the theme of targets, meeting needs and place making. Something that has come up quite a bit in our conversations with stakeholders is the question of how the target of 110,000 affordable homes by 2032 will be delivered. How was that target set? What evidence is it based on? In what way does it relate to local assessments of need? Is the housing need and demand assessment process fit for purpose in giving us that kind of information?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will continue the theme of meeting needs. In previous evidence, the committee heard about the challenges of providing the right homes in the right locations. For example, in written evidence, Highland Council said:

“Numbers alone should not be the sole determinant, though they are a useful target or ambition ... Government should be honest enough to question whether a lower but more focussed number may be more appropriate. In short, the right homes in the right place of the right size and right tenure at the right time and for the right people, adapted as required for needs is arguably more appropriate and may lead to a lower total number being more appropriate”.

What is your view of this statement?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

We move to rural-focused questions from Miles Briggs.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will scoop up one more rural question—as a Highlands and Islands MSP, I am particularly keen to get a bit more information on this. It is clear from what you have said that you are aware of the importance of rural housing enablers and community-led housing in developing new affordable homes in rural areas. Community Land Scotland told us in written evidence that there are

“unnecessary complexities in the funding”—

I think that it was referring to the rural and islands housing funds—

“and planning processes which, if addressed, could speed up the process and enable more communities to deliver hyper local schemes that meet local need.”

I am interested to hear your thoughts on that comment. In what way will the forthcoming remote, rural and island housing action plan address those issues?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks, Willie. Thank you, cabinet secretary, for your responses. I have a few follow-up questions.

At the beginning of your opening statement, you touched on the challenges around not having the powers to borrow. Would you go into that a little bit more? You might have touched on it in response to Paul McLennan and Willie Coffey, but would you give us a bit more on what we would need in order to be able to fulfil the commitment on our affordable housing supply programme?

10:30  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

That would be brilliant. Thanks very much.

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for their evidence. That was our final pre-budget scrutiny evidence session. We will write to the cabinet secretary with our findings and recommendations on the affordable housing supply programme after the October recess and in advance of the budget’s publication.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

We agreed at the start of the meeting to take in private the final items on our agenda. As we have no further public business to consider, I close the public part of the meeting.

10:34 Meeting continued in private until 11:20.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

The fourth item on our agenda today is to take evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government on the affordable housing programme, as part of our pre-budget scrutiny. Shona Robison is joined by Scottish Government officials from the more homes division: Alastair Dee is the area manager; and Colin MacBean is the deputy director.

Before I open the session to questions from members, I ask the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you. We continue on that theme.