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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am aware that—[Inaudible.]—and I wanted to see whether he wants to come in on anything. We have not heard from him yet and I want to afford him the opportunity to speak to anything that has come up. I noticed some of his expressions, and I would love to hear his perspective.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is interesting that we are talking about rough shooting as it is done now. We are trying to establish whether, if we pass the bill, rough shooting could be used as a smokescreen, as Robbie Marsland said. Rough shooting could be carried out in a different way, not by people who are genuinely rough shooting but by people who want to use it as a loophole.

I want to pick up a thread of conversation about intent that happened a wee while ago with Billy Telford. We need to consider the person, the intent, the activity and the role of dogs. Is it possible to establish intent? How is it established? Is there a way to ascertain that people were planning to do something? Surely, if people are going to use rough shooting as a loophole, they will have to plan a bit in order to get the dogs, which are no longer spaniels or Labradors but hounds, to gather in a place. Something will need to be pulled together in order to do that. Anything that you can say about intent would be helpful.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Maybe it is not such a worrying issue after all that this is in the bill.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am an MSP for the Highlands and Islands.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Mercedes Villalba asked about two dogs. Ross, you talked about the fact that you would lose enjoyment. However, why would you have to reduce the number if we have established that the types of dogs that you use on a rough shoot are not hounds that hunt in packs? Why would you have to reduce the number of dogs?

I heard laughter when I asked whether a Labrador could be trained to work in a pack. If you are using dogs that could never ever—I should not say “never everâ€. If you are using dogs that would be unlikely to be used in a pack, surely having a number of dogs at your rough shoot is fine, because they are not hounds that hunt or kill in a pack.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We go to the panel online now.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for raising that issue. We welcome the written evidence that you plan to send to us.

Robbie Calvert pointed out the focus on the climate and nature crises and their role in the revised NPF4. In practical terms, what does the requirement for decision makers to give “significant weight†to the global climate and nature crises mean for development management and development planning across Scotland?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Right. Does the plan also need to sit in the context of the LDP to some extent or totally?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will bring in Paul McLennan with additional questions, then Annie Wells, when she returns.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have come to the end of our questions. We have a few more minutes if there is anything that the witnesses think we have not covered that is important for us to hear.