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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that response. It is really heartening to hear the continued commitment to engagement and collaboration.

I will touch on resourcing and biodiversity, because I have heard you talk a number of times in conversations about NPF4 about the fact that climate and biodiversity is the headline that we are trying to attend to. Last week, Bruce Wilson, who is the head of policy and advocacy at the Scottish Wildlife Trust, said that there was a lack of resources to measure biodiversity and that that threatened the ability of planners and developers to understand what is at risk and how they must modify developments to safeguard biodiversity. The increased workload of that additional responsibility is further augmented by the shortages of planners across Scotland. Therefore, how will the Government ensure that local authority planning departments are resourced and supported to properly evaluate and monitor the impact of developments on biodiversity?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I will now bring in Miles Briggs, who has a few questions on behalf of Annie Wells. Annie is with us online, but she has a throat ailment. Afterwards, I will bring in Liam Kerr.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

That concludes our questions. I really appreciate all of you coming in to allow us to hear what you have to say about NPF4 and the work that you have been doing. It has been a useful session, and I look forward to the next steps in the process.

I will suspend the meeting for five minutes before we move on to our next item of business.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you, minister. You covered a range of things in your statement. I want to begin by focusing on how evidence and feedback on the revised draft will be used. During last week’s session, the planning stakeholders suggested several possible improvements to NPF4. How will those and other stakeholder suggestions be taken on board before NPF4 is formally adopted?

Secondly, can you commit to further engagement when NPF4 is in place to improve areas that do not work as intended, perhaps through a chief planner’s letter?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

It is good to know that that is happening. It seems to be a critical tool.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We will move to Marie McNair, who joins us online.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. It will be interesting to see what happens once we move into the delivery plan phase and the changes that come about from the private sector.

I just want to dig down into one particular policy area. We heard last week that there could be a conflict between renewable energy and wild land. I note that one of the tests for allowing renewable energy development on wild land is whether it supports the meeting of renewable energy targets, but concerns have been raised by Scottish Environment LINK and the John Muir Trust that all renewable energy developments, by their very nature, meet that test. Can you assure the committee that NPF4 strikes the correct balance between protecting wild land and meeting renewable energy targets, and can you provide more clarity on that issue?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that, Andy. I believe that Sophie Lawson would like to come in on these questions as well.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We come to our second panel of witnesses. We are joined in person by Adam Stachura, who is head of policy and communications at Age Scotland. I might have mispronounced your last name. Online, we are joined by Henry Simmons, who is the chief executive of Alzheimer Scotland, and Hannah Tweed, who is the senior policy officer of the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting. If those who are online indicate that you want to respond by putting an R in the chat box, I will make sure that we bring you in. Members will direct questions to start off.

I will begin by directing my first question to Hannah Tweed. This might be a question to which we get a response from all of you. I am interested in hearing the main problems with how social care is currently delivered. Do you agree that there is a postcode lottery in care delivery?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I ask Henry Simmons whether he has anything to add.

We cannot hear you, Henry. Hang on a minute. I am not sure what is going on. I will ask my other question while you are trying to figure that out, and we can come back to you once we get your audio sorted out.

The committee has had evidence sessions on the national care service, and we have heard from previous witnesses that the bill is a disproportionate solution to the challenges that we face. I am keen to hear your views on whether we need legislation to bring about improvements. I will start with Adam Stachura.