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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I am aware of time. We have about 20 minutes left for this conversation, and there are a number of questions. I invite colleagues to direct their questions to specific people, and I ask panel members to keep their answers as succinct as possible. The answers have been fantastic up to now. It is very important for us to hear everything, and I do not want to restrict you in any way, but we want to make sure that we cover all the questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

We have lost our connection to Shaun Macaulay. Let us go to Euan Jardine.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I think that James Stockan would like to come in on that. Ask your question, Marie, and then we will loop him in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I had wanted to bring in Shaun Macaulay, but he is not online鈥攚e had him back, but he has gone again鈥攕o I will bring in James Stockan to respond to the previous question and this one, too.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

That was indeed an interesting part of our discussion. We have only a couple more questions to go. It is half past 10, so I trust that it is okay if we go on for maybe five or 10 more minutes.

I call Paul McLennan.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

You said that we are not starting with a blank sheet and that there is huge suspicion. If there is suspicion, we need to build trust. Would the three things that you outlined鈥攃ore funding, removal of ring fencing and joint setting of priorities鈥攈elp to ease the suspicion and help us to move towards trust?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I agree with that. When I talk to people where I live, I find that most people seem not to understand what their local authority is giving them, and they tend to move to conversations about the national Government. We need to do some work to gain respect and understanding of what is delivered at the local level, in the minds of people in Scotland.

I have another question; I will stick with the new deal. The recent update from the Scottish Government to the committee spoke about agreeing a new deal in advance of the coming financial year. Is that a realistic timescale? What needs to be agreed before a deal is struck? That timescale feels tight.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Councillor Ross said that we have been doing this for the past 10 years. The local governance review has been going on since 2017, so maybe the conversation has been happening. As you said, we have the pieces and elements of the conversation, so it could be that things could move quite quickly if we could build trust and have the dialogue that you are talking about.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that perspective. We will move on to a different theme. Thank you very much for your contributions so far.

Willie Coffey will pick up on the local governance review.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

The next question is from Annie Wells, who is joining us online.