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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 September 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

There is the national test programme, which does carbon audits, but the farm advisory service was doing that as well, and you mentioned that that fund is exhausted. Are you going to continue with the farm advisory service funding of carbon audits, or will you switch to make it all streamlined into the national test programme?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

So, you are creating different doors, in a way, for people to go through to get their carbon audit.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned other technologies. You talked about the roll-out of REM, but is there any other technology that you could use in the light of the introduction of HPMAs and MPAs?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

That would be welcome. I have spoken to young farmers, who tend to be on smaller pieces of land, and they have a lot of passion and ideas for innovation but do not have the capacity. They are trying to do the work on the land, but they are finding the application process onerous and feel that they need a degree in grant writing in order to access the funding. It is good to hear that you are assessing that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

I am heartened to hear about the two RIBs to bolster inshore protection.

I have read in detail about the data and intelligence that are used, but I would be interested in understanding more fully what you mean by a “risk-based system” or approach. Obviously, it is based on intelligence, but one concern that I hear from stakeholders and coastal communities is that, if an MPA is encroached on, the damage is done.

You talked about the blue economy. We have a greater understanding that blue carbon is part of protecting our blue economy, but it seems to me that, at the moment, we do not have that. You said that we could not patrol all of our coastal waters all of the time, but I have a concern that encroachment can happen and that damage can be done very quickly, and the speed with which Marine Scotland’s enforcement and protection vessels arrive means that they are too late to stop something happening. What is your thinking in relation to the long term, especially when we are talking about highly protected marine areas, which invite a change of behaviour and a change of understanding?

These conversations are all about the long-term protection of the fisheries that you support in your role as fisheries minister. We are trying to protect inshore waters so that we have fisheries for the future. Enforcement seems to play a really important role in that, and I do not think that we have the capacity to do that properly yet, so I would like to understand more about the risk-based system.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on the national test programme. We are interested in hearing what the funding for that will buy in 2023-24 but also what you anticipate will be spent in 2022-23.

You mentioned soil testing and carbon audits, and you have spoken to my colleague Rachael Hamilton about the low uptake. That is a concern, and it would be interesting to understand what the barriers are. It sounds to me as if part of it is just about getting the word out to farmers and working through ARIOB. However, will the funding in the national test programme cover just soil testing and carbon audits, or is anything else being rolled out?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Will those RIBs be based in particular ports?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that clarification.

Cabinet secretary, there is a commitment in the Bute house agreement to at least double our organic land. Where does that fit in? Soil testing and understanding what is in the soil is obviously part of moving towards organics. Where do the funding and support lie for that? Is it a natural fit in the national test programme? Is there scope for participation payments for people to start transitioning to organic production? Does that sit in the national test programme or in another funding pool?