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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for coming to the meeting, giving us your evidence, and responding to our questions. It has been very helpful to the committee to hear a bit more detail on the thinking behind the budget allocation.

As we agreed at the start of the meeting, we will take the remainder of our agenda items in private. We have no more public business today, so I now close the public part of the meeting.

11:40 Meeting continued in private until 12:19.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

That would be very helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

In your opening statement, minister, you said that delivery is a challenge at this time, given the public finances. I think that a national forum would be a really important element in bringing people together. Has the Scottish Government taken into account the costs of establishing a national forum? You mentioned that the GrowGreen Scotland initiative is funded with £20,000 a year. Have you looked at the costs of a national forum?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Having been involved in community growing for many years, both in Scotland and in New York city, I am sure that where there’s a will, there’s a way and that, if the opportunities are made clearer for people, through Government and local authority leadership, we will find the opportunity for the co-benefits that you have outlined.

Is there adequate data available to say whether the legislation has been a success? If so, what impact has part 9 of the act had over its five years of implementation? You have identified the co-benefits and things such as that, but I would like to hear a bit more from you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

What you pointed out about additional guidance could be good. We talked in the report about the need for leadership. I imagine that, when a local authority is busy doing the work that it needs to do and it then needs to take on something new, getting into the new workstream is difficult, and guidance can always help to ease the way.

I will focus on the role of the coming Scottish food commission. The Government response to the committee’s report notes

“the links between the local good food nation plans and the food growing strategies”

and that those are for local authorities to determine. Given our very welcome move towards more sustainable and locally grown food, I am keen to hear the Scottish Government’s thoughts on the commission’s role under part 9 of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 and on creating the links. Good food nation plans are about local authorities procuring to their public kitchens, whereas part 9 of the 2015 act is more about local food community growing and such things. There is a connection, or there needs to be a connection, because I notice that there is confusion. If we do not make the connection, there could be confusion.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Yes, that information would be welcome.

I want to pick up on council reserves. In 2021-22, almost three quarters of councils—23 of them—reported an increase in usable reserves. However, for many years, local authorities have been forced to supplement general grant revenue funding with reserves to prevent cuts to highly valued community facilities and services. That is not what reserves should be used for, of course, but local authority funding levels have resulted in that necessity. The committee would be interested to hear whether the cabinet secretary believes that local authorities should be drawing on those reserves and, if so, in what circumstances.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that. I look forward to seeing the plan in the spring. That also connects to the Government’s commitment to maintaining our rural populations.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting.

The first item on our agenda today is to make a decision on whether to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Allotments

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much. We appreciate your willingness to take on that piece of work.

We will move on to a question from Annie Wells, who joins us online.