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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

That brings us to the end of our questions. I thank the witnesses for coming this morning鈥攊t has been very useful to get your perspectives in a bit more detail.

10:35 Meeting suspended.  

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Robert Emmott, what about in Dundee?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the third meeting in 2023 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. We have received apologies from Marie McNair, who is a member of the committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent and that all other notifications are turned off during the meeting.

The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Under item 2, the committee will take evidence from two panels of witnesses on local government fiscal arrangements. In the first session, we will focus on 鈥淟ocal government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2021/22鈥, which the Accounts Commission published recently. For our first panel, we are joined by Bill Moyes, who is chair of the Accounts Commission, and Andrew Burns, who is a member of the Accounts Commission. They are accompanied by Carol Calder, who is audit director at Audit Scotland, and Blyth Deans, who is senior manager at Audit Scotland. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting.

Before we open up the session to questions from members, I invite Bill Moyes to make a short opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

I am going to ask what might be the final question. During the earlier panel, I was talking to Bill Moyes about his statement about the need for councils to focus more on service reform to find the safe path through difficult times ahead. I am interested to know what you think when you hear about reform. I asked for specifics earlier but perhaps you have some thoughts about that that will help me to understand what he was getting at. Martin Booth has been nodding his head.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

It is great to hear that they still do books but that there is also the idea of stacking functions in a building and a space that is open to the public.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. That is helpful鈥擟ovid funding is part of the issue.

The committee would also be interested to hear the commission鈥檚 view on the letter in which the directors of finance sought an additional 拢1 billion of funding for next year. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government told the committee that that request

鈥渨as just impossible ever to meet.鈥濃擺Official Report, Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, 17 January 2023; c 24.]

The committee will hear from three directors of finance on the next panel. As the public spending watchdog, what is the commission鈥檚 view on that request by the directors of finance?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

We move to questions from Annie Wells, who joins us online.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Government Fiscal Arrangements

Meeting date: 31 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that. The Accounts Commission highlighted a real-terms increase in Scottish Government funding to local government in the 10 years since 2013-14. In 2023-24, there is again a real-terms increase compared with equivalent budget figures for 2022-23. I would be interested to hear why local government argues that a settlement of 拢13.2 billion for local government is not enough. What more is required?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Shark Fins Bill

Meeting date: 25 January 2023

Ariane Burgess

When will you have the opportunity to raise that?