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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thanks very much for that. That has been helpful. We clearly have some pathways back, in case things start to go awry. I totally take on board the need to relieve pressure from local planning authorities, and I see that the measures do that, but, at the same time, we need to make sure that we are keeping communities in mind.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for laying that out. You touched on some of those things earlier, but it is good to hear that said again in a slightly different way so that we start to get clarity.

We are also interested in when this Scottish statutory instrument will be reviewed. How will you keep it under review? If problems start to arise, what is the process for that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

It is good to hear that the approach will involve continuous monitoring. As NPF4 is taken forward, there will be lots of changes and moving parts, and we will need to keep track of them and how they interact with each other.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Community Planning Inquiry (Post-legislative Scrutiny of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much. That was helpful.

I call Marie McNair, who has questions on the theme of measuring impact.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Community Planning Inquiry (Post-legislative Scrutiny of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

I call Miles Briggs to ask about the culture of public bodies.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Community Planning Inquiry (Post-legislative Scrutiny of the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

I know that we use it often, too, but I love the metaphor of the journey that we are on and our direction of travel, and I hope that the work that the committee is doing and all the evidence that it is taking will help us move in the direction of putting communities even more at the heart of this work. Thank you so much for joining us today.

The committee agreed at the start of the meeting to take the next item in private. As this evidence-taking session was the last public item on our agenda, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:46 Meeting continued in private until 12:08.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

There are a couple of things that I want to raise. I want to come back to the issue of centres—policy objective 1B—and add into the mix that we have our fantastic national planning framework 4, which is pointing us towards more town-centre regeneration. That is something to keep an eye on, because, as we try to retrofit houses and create more housing in town centres, we will be adding additional pressures; for example, Mark Griffin talked about issues with families living nearby. If that is the direction of travel for how we want our town centres to regenerate, it is worth keeping an eye on the fact that we will have a higher population and more activity in the streets. I take on board the mechanisms that you described for offering people a way to bring things to our attention.

I have some concerns about objective 1C in the paper, which deals with port development. Our paper mentions green ports specifically, but they are not in discretely defined areas. A number of the ports are Edinburgh ports. I want a little bit more detail about the order of what is happening. That comes from a concern about a potential loss of community voice, for communities of interest and communities of place. If a development starts to happen that is affecting them, what recourse or ability do they have to raise that concern? The paper states that the order

“provides for development to be undertaken by the statutory undertaker’s agent.â€

Can you tell us a bit more about who those agents are?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

You described something very specific there: bus stops. What else could be brought in under this?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you, minister, for your patience. The committee has discussed various issues, and we want to seek reassurance from you on a couple of points of concern.

With regard to policy objective 1A, on electric vehicle charging points, 105 buildings are part of the cladding review process, and there are concerns about whether the wall-mounted EV charging points will interact with any of those buildings. Are you aware of that situation? How can we handle that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that.

On policy objective 1B, on town centres, there is concern about the ability of the public to participate in anything that might affect their lives and about the removal of the neighbour notification. Can you give the committee some reassurance about how people could participate? The concern is that, if a business makes a move to set up an outdoor seating area, it will be difficult for the public to find out that that is happening on their doorstep.