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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Devolving Scotland

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. It is really helpful.

It has been a really useful session, and we could go on a bit longer—I have certainly got more questions—but I have put a big box around my note “How local is local?”. Perhaps that is another part of the conversation if we want to take a more local approach, be that through 19 or 32 local authorities. That might have been discussed in some of the reports of the 2002 or 2014 local government committees, which you have referred to. It seems to be another piece of the conversation about what we want to devolve to more local levels, and that is important as we face a climate and nature emergency. Communities will face very different sets of issues—flooding, wildfires or whatever—and a pandemic-level speed of response to those issues will be needed. What is the local level at which power is needed in order to do that quickly?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

First, I want to continue with Christine Grahame’s line of questioning, as I am interested in getting a little bit more detail as to why you chose to use the phrase “have regard to” instead of something stronger like “must comply with” in relation to the code of practice. Secondly, what kind of evidence would a licence holder need to present to show that they had had regard to the code of practice? Finally, how do you think compliance with the code of practice will be monitored?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thanks.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

I am interested in the key issues that the Scottish Government needs to come to a view on to make a decision about extending SSPCA powers. Is the Scottish Government working with Police Scotland to consider that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple of questions about the thinking around the payments. One is about supporting farmers who are already growing or want to grow more fruit and vegetables or plant protein. As you know, horticulture uses less land and supports many more livelihoods in rural areas. I am interested in hearing what your thinking is about supporting more people to grow food in Scotland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

How does the Scottish Government intend to use marine spatial planning tools such as the national marine plan and regional marine planning to mitigate the loss of fishing grounds that is associated with potential HPMAs and forthcoming inshore fisheries management measures?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. I hear what you say about HPMAs being in Ms McAllan’s remit, but the issues are connected. The creelers and divers who have spoken to me have all said that they want to protect habitats for fish and shellfish so that they become more abundant and our seas can support more fishers fishing for more fish.

HPMAs, which are in effect fish nurseries, should be a policy that creelers naturally support. I believe that HPMAs, otherwise known as no-take zones, could still attract their support if the surrounding fisheries management measures give them sufficient space and protection from the mobile sector. I am looking for your reassurance that the Scottish Government is exploring ways to support low-impact creelers and divers so that our inshores can sustain more jobs in fishing, not fewer.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a follow-on question, which is about less favoured areas. I get contacted by crofters who are concerned about inflation having an impact in less favoured areas, where they farm sheep and cattle. One opportunity that we have with a change in policy is in the diversification of what they can do. I am interested in hearing whether you can confirm that farmers in less favoured areas will be supported to access funding for projects such as the forestry grant scheme so that they can diversify.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

Do you think that people in the sector and in general really understand the shifting baseline syndrome in our fisheries and the level of decline that we are facing? We have legal obligations to manage our fisheries to good environmental status. There are the indicators, and we understand from one of them—I think that it is number 11—that the sea bed is severely damaged, which is one of the reasons why we need to bring in more protections. It is all connected, and, if we want fishing for the future, we have to bring in those protections. However, I get the sense that people maybe do not fully understand that we are dealing with a very degraded situation and that, if we do not do anything now, there will not be anything to bring back.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Rural Affairs and Islands Remit

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Ariane Burgess

It is not just the stocks; it is also the sea bed. When I bring this issue up, the discussion goes to stocks, but the sea bed is the critical factor for fisheries, for bringing the fish stocks back and for the ecosystem that we need in order to see our waters flourish.