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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Good morning. I will follow on from Alasdair Allan鈥檚 question. The charity Blue Cross says that a separate code of practice for those about to buy a dog, rather than on ownership itself, would complement the existing code of practice, as that would cover two different areas of dog ownership鈥攏amely, acquiring a dog and owning a dog. Is the Scottish Government supportive of producing guidance on responsibly acquiring, buying and selling a dog?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that.

You mentioned the Kennel Club. Our papers refer to its surveys in 2021, 2022 and 2023, which make it clear how bad the situation is and how things have just stayed the same. In that respect, I would be interested in hearing your response to a couple of things. First, given the continuing problems with puppies, why have ministers not brought forward a code through the powers under the Animal Health and Welfare (Scotland) Act 2006?

My second question is about amendments. I understand the general practice of trying not to put things into legislation, because of the need for flexibility or consultation, but I would imagine that Christine Grahame has already consulted on the elements that need to be in the bill. If the bill is not going to cover the kind of specifics that she is asking for, why not? What makes this issue so special? I guess that the question is connected to the one that I asked initially: why have ministers not brought forward something already?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

I want to come back to your remark about the prescriptive nature of the code. The provisions that Christine Grahame has included in sections 2 to 4 all seem to be fairly generic. I cannot imagine that there would be a problem with the proposed questions, because those are questions that any prospective owner would want to ask themselves, although we might want to change the provisions in section 4, on the certificate. It seems to me that what is laid out in sections 2 to 4 would be required, but section 5 provides that ministers may revise the code from time to time, as long as it continues to give effect to sections 2 to 4. Christine Grahame wants to ensure that the provisions of sections 2 to 4 will have a lasting life. Those provisions seem fairly generic in that they include fundamental things that we would want a code to include.

You said that the code of practice provisions are a bit prescriptive, but you also pointed to the six-month period for the code of practice to come into effect and the desire to go out to consultation again. I would be interested in hearing whether you would be open to the six-month period being amended and what sort of period you think would be appropriate.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

So, it is a language issue.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

I heard your concerns about the registration scheme. We have heard from stakeholders that a system of regulation to cover all litters is welcome, but that it would have to sit alongside a user-friendly, easily accessible, centralised and transparent register of anyone breeding and selling dogs in order to be easily enforced. I heard your concerns about names and addresses, but what came up at our previous evidence session related to the centralised nature of the scheme and that it would be good to be able to cross-reference on a national basis.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Thanks for that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else want to say something?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

I will move on but stay in the same area. Stacey Dingwall and Ben Edgar-Spier started to touch on this. One of the reasons why the bill has been introduced relates to the impact that mass tourism has on our communities. I am interested in hearing from any of you about the alternatives. Ben Edgar-Spier mentioned redirecting high taxation. If we do not go down this route, how can we tackle the issues that communities face when there is mass impact on tourism infrastructure in order to improve things for those communities? What are the other ways of doing that, aside from what has been mentioned on redirecting high taxation?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

Stacey wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Ariane Burgess

That concludes our questions. We appreciate your coming in. It has been good to hear more nuanced approaches to your sectors and how they will be affected, so thank you for that. Next week, we will be hearing from local authorities.

We agreed at the start of the public meeting to take items 3 and 4 in private, so, as that was the last public item of our agenda for today, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:52 Meeting continued in private until 12:25.