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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

The bill says that the person who is going to see a puppy has to see it with the mother

“unless this is not practicable”.

What do you think about the suggestion that that needs to be clearer? An alternative suggestion is

“unless this is not practicable for welfare reasons”,

so that we are specific about why it is not possible.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

In a way, you have introduced the bill partly because, although we would think that some of that is common sense, you have discovered that it is not.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for coming in and giving us your evidence on your bill. I align myself with Emma Harper’s thoughts on the amount of work that you have put in to get it this far.

The word “loophole” came up in response to Emma Harper’s question, and I will continue on that theme. The bill provides that young dogs are to be seen with their mother

“unless this is not practicable”,

and my question is about that wording.

A couple of stakeholders raised concerns about that being a loophole and asked for something a bit more specific. What do you think about that? For example, Battersea Dogs & Cats Home suggested using the wording:

“unless this is not practicable for welfare reasons”.

The Dogs Trust suggested that it might apply

“if the mum is deceased”.—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 20 September 2023; c 12.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

I have a supplementary question that is on microchipping, but it is also about supporting the register. On 20 September, we heard evidence from Libby Anderson, who explained that, although microchipping improves traceability of individual dogs, a register could ensure not only traceability but transparency about and accountability of the breeder. Other witnesses have provided evidence on unscrupulous dealers switching out microchips to falsify where an animal has come from. I have read your letter, Ms Grahame, and hear your possible openness to microchipping. However, if we relied on microchipping for traceability, how could such practices be prevented?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much. It is wise to be prudent on those numbers. How about in Highland Council?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

I bring in Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay. I will now bring in Stephanie Callaghan, who joins us online.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Great; there are many things to pursue, there.

That brings us to the end of our questions. We have a bit of time if anyone feels that we have not pursued an area in depth. I do not see anyone wanting to speak.

It has been helpful to hear all your perspectives; as I said, we have unearthed more areas to consider. Our general objective is to get more housing and to make sure that people have a home before other people have second homes.

We will hear from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the Minister for Community Wealth and Public Finance on the regulations at the committee’s meeting on 5 December.

We agreed to take the next item in private.

10:48 Meeting continued in private until 11:36.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

You are clearly pointing to the need for a nuanced approach to topography and to all these different properties. I see that Timothy Douglas wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ariane Burgess

Okay; thanks. Gareth Waterson, what about in Orkney?