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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I think that we heard earlier that there has been movement on PAS 9980 and that we are heading towards agreement on its adoption.

Stephen Andrew wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is very helpful. It is about where you draw the line. If you draw the line too tightly, you might miss something that has a critical knock-on effect, as you say. Alan Millar wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I wonder about the different legal contexts鈥擨 do not know enough about that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. Those are very practical ideas about the mapping process.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. I will bring in Sean Clerkin, Jodi Terras and then Paul Turnbull. Stephanie Callaghan, I will bring you in to open up the next bit of the conversation. Folk might have other points that they want to make from earlier questions, but anyone who wants to make a comment on the cladding assurance register should bottom that out a little bit more now.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is an interesting point.

I am going to have to move the conversation on. Stephanie Callaghan, please direct your question to David Jones, who wants to come in next. Stefano Pessina can come in after that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

We heard, maybe in our visit sessions, that the reluctance might not be just because something is not paid for, but because of the unknown level of upheaval that comes into an owner鈥檚 life.

Willie Coffey, I am going to bring you in with your question. Chris Ashurst has just indicated that he wants to come in, but on stuff that is already in the mix. If you could come in with your first question, Willie, we will then see where we go.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. I will bring in Alan Millar and Perry Jenkins, but before I do so, I ask Marie McNair to ask her final question, and people can add in their responses to that, too. We have now gone over the hour, so we will need succinct answers.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I say once again that we are over time, so responses should be succinct. I call Alan Millar and Perry Jenkins, and if anyone else has anything new and different to drop into the conversation that we have not heard yet, it would be great to hear it.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

On our second panel today, we are joined in the room by Stephen Andrew, who is the group technical director at Taylor Wimpey plc; Fionna Kell, who is the director of policy for Homes for Scotland; John Low, who is the chief executive at Robertson Homes Ltd; and Kieran Walker, who is the senior technical director at Barratt Developments plc. We are joined online by Julie Jackson, who is general counsel and company director at Miller Homes Ltd.

As with the first panel, I will begin our conversation by inviting everyone to briefly introduce themselves. I am a Highlands and Islands MSP and the convener of the committee.