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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. Bryan Leask, do you have any comments on the reduction in the validity timeframe?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I agree. Scottish Land & Estates and other stakeholders have called for a rural impact assessment. You are right: if we are to go down the route of such assessments, they have to be meaningful and all those aspects must be explored. Again, your answers leave a lot of unanswered questions, but it was good to hear your thoughts.

I move on to the workings of the UK and Scottish Governments. Should there be closer working between them on EPC reform? Would that be better for landlords who have properties across the UK, to ensure some uniformity? What needs to happen to ensure that implementation is successful? I do not know whether Bryan Leask or John Blackwood wants to come in first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is really helpful. Thank you both very much.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. That is helpful.

If witnesses will bear with me, I would like to expand on a point that Gillian Campbell raised in relation to landlords. We will hear from the Scottish Association of Landlords on our next panel. In its submission, it states that it has concerns regarding this particular proposal, because

“it will increase costs for landlords without delivering significant additional value”.

It also states:

“The energy efficiency of most properties will not materially change within five years”

and asks for a “more proportionate approach”, which would be to

“require a new EPC at the first letting”

following the minimum energy efficiency standard—MEES—compliance date and to

“retain the 10-year validity period thereafter”.

Does anyone have thoughts on those concerns or, indeed, alternative proposals?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

It goes back to the argument about up-front costs versus potential benefits that could follow thereafter, and the up-front costs will be daunting for many home owners up and down the country with these reforms coming through.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Yes.

I will stick on this theme for a second and return to the issue of geographical challenges, which was discussed earlier in relation to rural versus more urban properties. Scottish Land & Estates is hinting at concerns about implementation, because it is harder to retrofit and upgrade rural properties in order for them to achieve EPC ratings. Given the type of buildings that rural properties are, in relation to structure and age, there are usually higher costs associated with trying to get them up to a good energy efficiency standard. How do we get around that?

There are houses and rural properties that do not achieve an EPC C rating, which is the energy efficiency standard that we are hoping that properties will achieve. With the new reforms, how will that be achieved without asking people to take ridiculous energy efficiency measures? One example that I heard about directly from the owner of a stand-alone rural property was that they would have to put up a wind turbine in front of the property. That gives an indication of the significant barriers that home owners in rural areas face in trying to make their homes more energy efficient.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is helpful. Thank you very much, everyone, for answering those questions.

We have discussed consumer awareness and confidence in the new system, so I will not go into the questions that I had on that, as we do not have much time left.

Regarding the proposed timetable, we have talked about the implementation date later in 2026. Does anyone have any further comments on the assessor market or on the need for those in the property letting and conveyancing sectors to prepare? That will be hugely important—and you touched on it earlier, Alan. I invite any further comments in that space, as that will be a crucial matter for the implementation of the EPC reforms.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is really helpful. Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

We hope to complete the Housing (Scotland) Bill this evening. We also have legislation on building standards, a heat in buildings bill—although we are vastly running out of time to look at that legislation—and EPC reform. It is all happening at the same time. Is there a danger that we are overlegislating at present? What impact will all those things running at the same time have on landlords and tenants who are navigating this very complex system? They will have to understand what the legislative and regulatory changes mean, as well as deal with the associated costs. I know that that is a very wide question.