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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Ukraine

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The consul probably knows that this is one of the few subjects that unites all the parties in the Scottish Parliament. Our support for Ukraine is unstinting and will be unrelenting; it is characterised by the 100-year agreement that was signed between the United Kingdom and Ukraine last month.

I will ask a few questions about the Ukrainians who are in Scotland. We know that around 30,000 came, and you paid tribute to the schemes that brought those good people here and the support that they have received. How many are still here? I am specifically interested in how the Ukraine permission extension scheme is viewed. Will the Ukrainians here apply to stay for another 18 months under the same conditions as the original visa, or do you anticipate that people might begin to return to Ukraine?

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Ukraine

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The Office for National Statistics has produced a lot of information on the status and experience of the Ukrainians who came to the UK after the Russian aggression and invasion. Some of the numbers suggest that one of the greatest things that we could have done鈥攁nd which we maybe should have done better鈥攚as help the Ukrainian people to learn English, which of course would have been a lifelong advantage to the people who have come here. I note that 49 per cent of the people who have come to Scotland say that they have found it difficult to get the kind of work that you were describing earlier. Teaching people English, and encouraging them to learn it, seems to have been a real challenge and we might not have done that as well as we could have done it. What more can we do to help the Ukrainian people in Scotland learn to speak and use English?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Ukraine

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

I have one last question about the 100-year agreement. I know that we should not take the name of the agreement too literally, but it is intended to underline the permanence of the relationship between the United Kingdom and Ukraine. One of the pillars of the agreement is community and cultural links. Do you have a personal vision as to how that might come about after the hostilities have ended? I specifically mean links between Scotland and Ukraine.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Ukraine

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

Because of the value.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is a very interesting observation.

May I throw seed potatoes at you as well? Scottish seed potato producers are in complete harmony with all the regulations that are required in order for them to have their products in the market in the EU, but the EU has, for some reason, refused to grant equivalence. What is going on there?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, when it comes to the ability of businesses to export into one another鈥檚 markets, those border controls ought to be manageable on the basis of the Windsor framework agreement, as you have said. I am just trying to think what the complexities are that are stopping us from smoothing out this SPS agreement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The data on our meat exports to the EU and to the rest of the world is very encouraging. The value of the exports seems to have risen exponentially over the past couple of years. What has happened there?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

The volumes and value of fish being exported to the EU and to the rest of the world are similar to those of other goods, but we will probably need to talk about fish separately on another occasion, as there is no one here who can answer my fish questions.

Moving on to regulation and competitive advantage and disadvantage, I am not sure which of you will be able to answer this question, but one of the issues for Scottish farmers is that they do not necessarily have all the tools in their toolkit that farmers in the rest of the UK and in the EU might have the advantage of. I am thinking, in particular, of precision breeding and gene editing. Lucy, can you say anything about that? Would it be helpful if we were to give all the tools in the toolbag to our farmers, to allow them to compete on a level playing field and a profitable basis?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Stephen Kerr

There are some producer sectors, such as fishing, that are keen鈥攖he Scottish Fishermen鈥檚 Federation is very keen鈥攖hat we should have divergence, because they feel that that would give them a competitive advantage. Would you like to comment on that?