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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Michael, before we hear from Beth Black, do you mind if I bring in Bob Doris? He has a question on this area. If we hear that, Beth can give us a fuller answer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

We will go back to Bob Doris for a follow-up question, and we will then go to Michael Marra.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

I appreciate that Bob asked that question earlier.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

For the final round of questions, given the time constraints that we have, I hand over to Stephanie Callaghan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Thank you. My first question relates to something to which you have already alluded. In June, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills effectively announced the abolition of the SQA. What is your understanding of why the SQA is to be abolished?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

On what did the SQA fail to live up to its purpose to the extent that the Government鈥檚 decision was to abolish it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

What are the reasons for that decision? Has there been a failure of confidence in the SQA on the part of ministers? Have they expressed a lack of confidence in the SQA?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Does Bob Doris want to ask a follow-up question? It has to be brief.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Indeed, as I said earlier, we are all united in respect of caring passionately about the future of our young people, because they represent the future of our country and, indeed, our planet. These are big issues. They are highly politicised鈥擨 do not think that anybody would deny that; this is the big stuff of politics.

I thank our witnesses for appearing today. We are grateful for the time that you have given us. We have tested your stamina and you have not been found wanting. We have kept you going for two and a quarter hours鈥攖hat is quite a lengthy session of cross-examination. At this point, I will bring our meeting to an end.

At next week鈥檚 meeting, on Wednesday 6 October, we will take evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills on her priorities for session 6 of the Scottish Parliament.

11:45 Meeting continued in private until 12:42.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Alternative Certification Model

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Stephen Kerr

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2021 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

We are meeting in hybrid format for our final evidence session on the alternative certification model. Joining us on behalf of the Scottish Qualifications Authority are Fiona Robertson, the chief executive; Dr Gill Stewart, the director of qualifications development; and Beth Black, director of policy, analysis and standards. Welcome to our committee.

Fiona Robertson will make a brief opening statement on behalf of the SQA, and then we will get into the questions.