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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Again, I appeal for brevity in the questions and answers because of the time limitations that we are living with.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

You talked about the stress that the whole education system is under. I refer to that article in the Glasgow Evening Times. From the point of view of the Association of Headteachers and Deputes in Scotland, are you generally satisfied with the supports that are in place for the mental health and general wellbeing of teachers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Are you saying that we have to look at the root cause?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

Has COSLA, or have its members, been asked to provide any kind of report on the way that the money is being used to make teachers’ contracts permanent? Is there a reporting mechanism?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

I thank Douglas Hutchison, Greg Dempster, Simon Cameron and Margaret Wilson for giving us so much of their time. We have gone quite a bit over time, and I apologise for that, but it has been a very useful session.

The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end. The committee’s meeting next week will involve an evidence session on the issue of drink and needle spiking.

11:52 Meeting continued in private until 12:12.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

So, you are saying in the groups that, the sooner the decision is made, the better, for the reasons that Douglas Hutchison has just mentioned.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

I will ask a couple of colleagues to ask quick—and I do mean quick—supplementary questions, and then we will move to Michael Marra and his line of questioning. Time is now against us. We luxuriated during the first hour of our meeting in questions and answers, but now we are up against the clock.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

I am a little surprised to hear that headteachers and deputes in Scotland have not considered the contract status of teaching staff. I am sure you would appreciate the difference that having a permanent contract makes to someone’s life planning and wellbeing. Am I making a fair point about contract status?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

The reason why I want to get to the bottom of this is that, obviously, the morale of teachers is an important issue for all of us—inspirational teachers are exactly what we need in all our classrooms across Scotland, at all levels of education.

When the announcement was made about the baseline money being made permanent, there seemed to be a suggestion that there was an agreement between the Scottish Government and COSLA that that money would be used to recruit teachers or cement teachers on permanent contracts? Is that right? Was there such an agreement?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Covid-19 and Schools

Meeting date: 19 January 2022

Stephen Kerr

But was it understood by COSLA that the Scottish Government was giving that money to the local authorities for those contracts to be made permanent? Was that implicit in the discussions between the Scottish Government and COSLA?