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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Thank you, Bob. We will move on. I will bring in David Belsey.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

We would welcome that very much.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Fergus, could you ask a question so that we can move on or are we going to go back to鈥

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

My second question may lead you to repeat some things that you have already said, but it is useful to get this on the record. In your evidence, you call into question the lawfulness of the bill under article 15 of the ECHR. Why did you say that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2022 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on the agenda is evidence on the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.

We will take evidence from two panels of witnesses. Our first panel consists of Paul Little, the vice-chair of Colleges Scotland鈥檚 college principals group; Matthew Sweeney, the policy manager for children and young people at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; David Belsey, the assistant secretary of the Educational Institute of Scotland; Diane Stockton, a consultant in public health at Public Health Scotland; John Edward, the director of the Scottish Council of Independent Schools; and Alastair Sim, the director of Universities Scotland. Paul Little, Matthew Sweeney, David Belsey and Diane Stockton are joining us remotely鈥擨 can now see your faces on the screen, which is good鈥攁nd John Edward and Alastair Sim are with us in the committee room.

Good morning to you all, and thank you in advance for the evidence that you will share with us. Unfortunately, time is limited this morning, so please do not feel that you must answer every question that is posed. I will try my best to bring people in, but I have to ensure that the session concludes by 10:30 at the latest. Any outstanding matters can be followed up in writing.

I will start with a question for Alastair Sim. In the first page of your written submission to the committee, you say:

鈥淎t no point has the Scottish Government had to use the emergency powers in the existing Coronavirus Act 2020 with regard to higher education.鈥

Is that correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

That is also true in relation to student accommodation, because the bill contains regulation on that, too. What is your response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

I will turn to Paul Little. In your written submission, you say:

鈥淥n the basis of this experience鈥濃

the experience of college operations during the pandemic鈥

鈥渨e would advise that the intended provisions which have been proposed within the Bill are not required.鈥

Could you expand on that, please? Why are they not required?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

Are we talking about the wrong things?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Stephen Kerr

That is very interesting.

Michael Marra has a question about schools.