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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

The decision鈥攐kay, I accept that.

In annex 21, which is on mobility, there is a long list of all the different business situations in which mobility is permitted. There is everything from meetings to research and design, marketing research, training seminars, trade fairs, sales, purchasing, aftersales, afterlease, commercial transactions, tourism personnel, translation and so on. Pascal, you say that you are seeking further clarification as to what activities are permitted under the mobility aspect of the TCA. What activities are you specifically talking about? By the way, I used to be one of those people who would be on the Eurostar going backwards and forwards to Paris. What activities are not covered in annex 21 that you feel should be included?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

It sounds like an argument about how many angels can balance on the head of a pin. If we create all these different points of angst about issues that may not even exist in the first place, we will never get anywhere. Let me be more direct with you about the activities that are listed. You have a large membership across Europe. Other than that rather obscure issue of cash in the pocket, what activities have your members raised with you that they would like to be added to annex 21 as permitted for short-term business visitors?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

And the reason that you gave was that it was biased against the European Union鈥檚 architects, who had themselves agreed to the agreement with the UK architects. It all sounds a bit banal鈥攃razy鈥攖o me.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

That was very interesting. Thank you very much.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

BBC Annual Report

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Mr Davie, you say that the local democracy reporting service is working. On what basis do you say that? There are other points of view.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

BBC Annual Report

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

However, it is all right for the House of Commons.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

BBC Annual Report

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes. That was when the TV licence was relevant.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I want to return to the data issue that the convener raised. You mentioned the sunset clause date of 27 June 2025. There is no reason to suppose that there cannot be a renewal of the European Union鈥檚 adequacy decision with regard to the UK, is there? Has there been much divergence at all in data protection laws? I am not aware that there has been much divergence at all.

I will go to Pascal Kerneis, as he is shaking his head.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

I think that adequacy is already reached, because we have complete compliance between the two regulatory regimes.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 23 January 2025

Stephen Kerr

So we could have an agreement, but the EU said no.

The mutual recognition of qualifications is a difficult issue, because even within the United Kingdom, there are professions in Scotland that are proudly independent of their professional status but which are not recognised in England, and there are those in England that are not recognised in Scotland. This is, therefore, not a new phenomenon; it is something that we currently live with and, truth be told, have probably lived with for hundreds of years.

This will be my final question, convener. You mentioned the review and the reset, but what is the appetite in that respect? I believe, Pascal, that you serve as a lawyer in the Commission and that you operate within that framework.