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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Okay. Will the bill make that a bit clearer, or will it not alter the process at all?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

It might be helpful to tell us about that, because that multi-agency work is complex and requires time. The teacher is at the heart of that, because they see the pupil regularly, whether that be for a single subject or for the whole day. How effective is that process at the moment? Is there scope to improve it through the bill? Other witnesses will definitely want to come in on that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

You have highlighted that every young person has an individual journey. The reason why I asked about and explored the bill’s scope is that the number of young people who come under the definition will have a direct impact on resourcing, and that will have financial implications.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I think so.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

You indicated that most young people will be easily identifiable. However, do you think that the bill sufficiently recognises people who have mild to moderate mental health conditions or people who are going through mental health crises? We have also alluded to people who have fluctuating support systems, and I am mindful that not everything is visible in that sense.

Based on the definition of disability in the Equality Act 2010, who should determine eligibility in the first instance? If there are disputes, which will inevitably happen, how would they be resolved?

Rebecca, I will go to you first. Feel free to comment on the previous topic. I am also happy for you to respond to my most recent question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

Thanks, Rebecca.

I will ask a final question, which relates to the scope of the bill. The financial memorandum to the bill suggests that around 4,000 school leavers a year would meet the current definition of “disabled”, which is around 8 per cent of school leavers from state schools. Is that a reasonable estimate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I suppose that I am looking to find out whether that is a reasonable number. Do you think that there will be a lot more people? Do you agree with that estimate?

Andy Miller, do you have anything to add? Feel free to shake your head.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

You have had a good stab at it. Let us go to Andy Miller.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 February 2023

Kaukab Stewart

I have listened with great interest to the perspectives of the witnesses. They have been very informative.

I will ask questions about whom the bill should cover and how young people should be identified. The bill bases whom it should cover on age and the definition of disability as stated in the Equality Act 2010. Do you think that that is proper? Will that cover everybody? Will that allow all young people to be identified, considering that not all of them will be in a system already? People can have a variety of needs, and some might not be in a system, if you know what I mean. There are challenges around that. I am interested in hearing how local authorities can identify children and young people who would be eligible without anybody falling through the net. I will start with Jenny Miller.