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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Collette Stevenson

That is interesting. I do not know what experiences any of you have of getting on to a tender framework. In my previous role, I sat on Scotland Excel and looked at tender submissions that came through. One tick box—which I think someone alluded to—was that, in order to get through, organisations had to pay the living wage. Have any of you experience of that? I also want to ask about the reporting mechanisms for Scotland Excel when an organisation is on such a framework.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

As you have mentioned the Cyrenians a couple of times, I note that Ewan Aitken from the Edinburgh Cyrenians has written to us to invite us to a cook school event. I look forward to hearing about the good work that the Cyrenians are doing on the prevention duties.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

Thanks, minister. That was a good point, Kevin. It would be great if committee members could get an outline of the programme of engagement over the summer. As a committee, we will look again at whether we have time in our work programme to get you back in, minister, but I thank you for your offer and we look forward to seeing that document.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

That is really helpful and hugely important, as you pointed out.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

Thank you. That was reassuring.

In its response to the call for evidence, Crisis said that it would be helpful for the Scottish Government to set out a

“vision statement to outline the ... outcomes”

from the prevention

“agenda, and how it envisages”

the duties working

“in practice”,

as it would lead to a shared understanding and enable better scrutiny. Do you agree that there is a need for such a statement? Is that something that you anticipate doing?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

Our next item is our final evidence session on the Housing (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. Today, we will hear from Paul McLennan, the Minister for Housing. I welcome him and his officials from the Scottish Government. Catriona MacKean is head of the better homes division, Pamela McBride is the homelessness prevention team leader, Naeem Bhatti is head of the fuel poverty and housing standards unit, and Craig McGuffie is from legal services.

Thank you all for joining us. Minister, I believe that you would like to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

It would be really helpful for the committee to get an update on that.

I thank the minister and his officials for attending the meeting. After the Parliament’s summer recess, the committee will report to the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee on the evidence that we have heard. The minister has quite a list of things to come back to us on, so we look forward to being in receipt of that information after the summer recess, so that we can carry out proper scrutiny of the bill.

That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will consider the remaining items on our agenda in private.

10:41 Meeting continued in private until 11:08.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

I will bring in Katy Clark before we finish up.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

We look forward to that visit.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Collette Stevenson

Thank you for those opening remarks, minister. I will kick off the questioning. Given that there is a housing emergency, why is the Scottish Government pursuing legislation on homelessness prevention at this stage when it might not be implemented for another few years? Should there be a greater focus on making the existing system work and increasing housing supply to respond to the current housing emergency?