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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Obviously, that is a big issue in central Scotland compared with elsewhere, in light of the sectarianism that goes on there. I know that it is quite significant even in East Kilbride.

11:30  

One thing that I want to note is that some civic and interfaith groups—the local chapel and churches are involved, for example—are working together to set up activities that are aimed at stopping sectarianism in schools. The groups have approached community councils and local authorities to seek more funding to deliver those to pupils in first and second year, because it is a big issue.

I know that I am slightly digressing from the issue of marches and parades, but all aspects of sectarianism have an impact. Those groups use a good model: they transport pupils to different areas or they teach them about the impact that sectarianism has.

In relation to the letter, I want some clarification on where the Government is trying to move the model to.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

In your written submission, you touched on the current contract for the prison transport service, saying that

“the ... cost model is no longer fit for purpose.”

You mentioned, for example, court backlogs, increased hospital bed watches and virtual courts. Will you expand on that and on what we can do better?

I understand that the current contract is for eight years. Getting out of that contract would be an efficiency in itself, if you like. Will you explain and expand on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I will touch on what Russell Findlay said about the transfer of Kilmarnock prison. Forgive me if I am wrong on this—perhaps you could clarify it, Ms Sinclair-Gieben—but if the private staff from Serco were to be transferred over to His Majesty’s service, would pension costs be involved? I am certain that, when staff are moved over under the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations, pensions are ring fenced so that they are outwith TUPE. It costs significantly more for such pensions to go into public pension schemes.

10:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I know from being an ex-independent prison monitor and picking up some casework to do with—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Thank you—taught by the best, believe you me.

A few of the cases that I picked up were to do with transportation. You mentioned the ageing demographic of the prisoners. When they are transferred—if someone is in Shotts and has to go up to court in Inverness, for example—they are stuck in a cage in that transport and could be sitting there for quite a length of time. How can that change? What is the impact on their human rights?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Do you know offhand the cost of the contract for GEOAmey?

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

The Wise Group has said that people who are unable to get a GP appointment within those five days are presenting at accident and emergency. That is putting additional pressure on to A and E. Recently, the message has been that, unless it is an emergency, we are not to present at A and E.

I know from making inquiries into recent casework that, as part of the health secretary’s winter resilience plans, letters will be sent to all GPs asking them to open up appropriate appointments again. I am getting a lot of casework in which people are saying that they are unable to get GP appointments. The issue affects more people than those coming out of prisons.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

We have touched on the increased costs of utilities and I think that Teresa Medhurst mentioned that your costs have gone up by something like 47 per cent this year. Where are you with regard to procuring a fixed rate with utility companies? Everyone has to deal with the impact of increased energy costs, but I do not know whether that framework has ended, from a public service point of view. Could you touch on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

Good morning.

In a written submission to the committee, Wendy Sinclair-Gieben, His Majesty’s chief inspector of prisons, raised concerns that a flat cash settlement for the Prison Service might be insufficient to meet the minimum requirements. You touched earlier, with Jamie Greene, on rehabilitative programmes and purposeful activity, and on the fact that the 20 per cent of the prison population who are currently on remand do not get those things, and some of them are locked up for 22 hours a day. I know that that was a challenge during Covid, but what are your views on that? There is the potential that we are contravening prisoners’ human rights.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Collette Stevenson

I will touch on how things are at the moment. My understanding is that prisoners are locked up Friday to Sunday, from 5 o’clock on Friday, and are limited in terms of the purposeful activity that they can do in the prison estate. Is that because of reduced staff? You have touched on looking at a more modern workforce and being more flexible. Is that something that you would look at in relation to the weekends, when prisoners are locked up from Friday night through until Monday morning?