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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Does that not allow supermarkets or big retailers to put pressure back on the farmer to achieve something for them? They are looking for market differentiation. That approach would load the burden back on to the farming community.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Convener, is it okay for me to continue?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Michael Gove gave a commitment some time ago that, on the basis of what you have just said, under no circumstances would agriculture be Barnettised. Do you have any concerns about that happening in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I am sorry, convener, but can I ask a question? Going on the premise of the points that Jonnie Hall has just made, is there not a danger that, if the UK Government does not ring fence the money, it could then Barnettise it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

On all the points that have been made, nobody will deny that we absolutely require the best animal welfare standards. We already have them, and our farming community does extensive work to ensure that there are the right welfare standards. However, I want to go back to the first thing that Joe Hind said, which was about what we define as quality food. It will be what the customer is prepared to pay for. I hate to bring money into the discussion when we are talking about animal welfare but ultimately, if you put a 拢10 steak and a 拢4 steak in front of a consumer who is facing a cost of living crisis, they will buy the 拢4 steak, by and large. They will do the same thing with milk: we have had programmes in which 10p extra went to the farmer. There was a litre of milk at 拢1.20 or one at 拢1.30, and consumers bought the one at 拢1.20 before the one at 拢1.30.

That is not to put a barrier in the way of anything; I am simply pointing out that we need to find the answer so that people who are cash-strapped are able to say that all those other things are important and are prepared to pay for them out of their pockets. I do not know how you do that in a bill. If anyone has any answers, I would be delighted to hear them.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

It does. We have all talked about the need for scrutiny of how the Government spends money. If a farmer is meeting the standards that a supermarket such as Tesco or Marks and Spencer has told them are its requirements for supplying it, and the Government then says that that alone is acceptable, then there is no scrutiny other than that which is done by the supermarkets, so the Government would in fact be asking the supermarkets to be credit checkers. Do you see what I mean?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

So, you are saying that as long as one of those schemes is in place that should be sufficient.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Good morning, convener. I have no interests to declare.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Historic Environment Strategy

Meeting date: 7 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

There is a wee issue that I am curious about. We have just finished building our house, and the biggest problem that we had was getting people to do the stonemasonry. Will the United Kingdom Government鈥檚 new immigration system allow people with the skill set to do stonemasonry to come into the country? Obviously, there are big gaps. You said that there are 2 million stone-built buildings in this country, and we definitely do not have enough stonemasons. Are we able to bring in people with the requisite skills from European countries to help to fill the gaps?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a slight concern about that. We have had such things happen in the past, particularly in my constituency, and they have led to a huge amount of forage being taken out of the marketplace, which has then pushed up the price of forage for livestock producers who live in the same area. There is an opportunity cost to everything that we do, is there not?