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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I think that I am correct in saying that Scotland gets about 17 per cent of the agriculture budget. Do you have any indication of whether that level of funding will continue to come to Scotland at that percentage rate, or is there a need for that to increase, too?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

My apologies, convener. My understanding is that tier 1 and tier 2 might well get the vast majority of the funding, but additional conditionality will be added to that, which will pave the way for tiers 3 and 4 to be able to do their work. If I am wrong—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

How much does it need to be to get to net zero?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You are absolutely right in everything that you say.

Pete Ritchie, I know that you have done extensive work on the matter. How do we make those higher costs that are part of producing the kind of food that we want to produce affordable for the people who want to buy it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You talked about the issue of long-term investment in relation to companies locating in Scotland. Do you agree that that will require a critical mass to ensure that long-term production stays in place?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a minor point. We have been talking about how we define the terms in the bill. I was looking recently at the Hill Farming Act 1946 in order to discover things about muirburn. The 1946 act prescribed that only specific types of tups could be used, as defined by the minister. How many ministers know what a good hill tup looks like and what its function should be? There is a danger that if we are very prescriptive, we will send farming in a particular direction. We surely have to look at something that allows ministers to let the industry develop the objectives in the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

You said that food security is a public good. My understanding has always been that food production and food security have never been regarded as a public good on the basis of public support.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

Something has just popped into my head—it may be absolute nonsense, so please feel free to shoot it down.

I go back to the point that David Thomson made about farmers having to meet particular requirements in order to supply whoever. We have QMS, Tesco and Marks and Spencer, all with different schemes that are asking for different things. If we want to make things as simple as possible for farmers, who are already fully stretched to the limit of their resilience with regard to being able to continue what they are doing, is there an opportunity in the bill for us to put in place one single scheme, which everybody accepts is the standard?

I am talking purely from the farmer’s point of view. Farmers may say, “Oh my god—here’s another layer of something that we have to deal with.” How do we take that burden off them and allow CPD to be something that they want to buy into?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Jim Fairlie

On the basis of trying to get a market advantage.