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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

If the budget passes, yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am not clairvoyant, so I cannot predetermine what private bus companies are going to decide and which services they will or will not want to keep. I will be back at the committee next year, because there will be an annual requirement to talk about the reimbursement rate. At that point, I will鈥擨 hope鈥攂e able to tell you that we are increasing the patronage even more because of the actions that we are taking.

I am not disputing the fact that there is a disparity in rural areas with regard to people鈥檚 ability to get a bus, and I am actively engaged in that issue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not know what rates it asked for those to be set at. Carole Stewart was part of the negotiations, so perhaps she can answer that question.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

We have a joined-up approach, but at the moment we are not filling in all the gaps. I assure you that I am actively looking at that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not have any feedback to hand to talk about any cuts to services. I have not been told of any.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

With regard to your specific question, the answer is no鈥擨 have not asked them to do that. However, I have asked them to consider whether young people who have the pass are using the bus. If those young people are transferring to being habitual bus users鈥攁nd the next generation will also be getting their free bus pass鈥攖he scheme will be creating an environment of bus use.

I have not looked at the specific areas that you asked about, but with regard to the overall picture, I am looking at how the young persons pass is delivering behavioural change.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I cannot definitively answer whether it affects rural areas, but my sense is that it definitely does. I say that as an MSP with a rural constituency, knowing that I see rural bus services declining. Again, we are actively looking at how to address that, but it is not easy, because it is a deregulated industry.

To go back to the point that Mark Ruskell made about public funds going into a service, we have very little in the way of levers to determine where services are. Again, that comes back to franchising and the other powers that we are putting into the hands of local authorities.

There is an awful lot of stuff in the mix about how we are going to improve the service, which goes back to my earlier point. We are looking at different areas. We want to get the best value for public money, make sure that people are using the buses and work with private enterprises.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

When it comes to bus companies increasing their prices in order to take advantage of the scheme, the scheme has mechanisms that would bring the reimbursement rate down. The other thing is that, if prices are increased for passengers, people will stop using the bus, so that is a disincentive.

If you want to get into the details of how the formula was designed, I will bring Gary McIntyre in to discuss that. However, the simple answer to your question is that mechanisms are in place to ensure that bus companies get the benefit of the scheme, as do passengers and the public purse. It is a fine balance, which is kept by very clever people working on formulas that make sense and are agreed with the CPT.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

I cannot answer that, unless Carole Stewart wants to chip in as to whether there has been a reduction in the network support grant usage.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jim Fairlie

The pilot will run from January 2026 to January 2027.