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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

It can speak, give advice and offer expertise.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

The purpose behind its inclusion is to allow an extensive range of voices to be part of the conversation to try to find the best solutions. That is entirely what it is about.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

We all know what damage is and what restoration is. We can see things being restored and improvements starting to be made with regard to what people are looking to achieve with any individual parcel of land.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

I think that it is.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not think so. Brodie Wilson has just pointed out to me something that I should probably have read out. A statutory requirement to “have regard” to something is understood as being a requirement to consider it. If there is a requirement for NatureScot to consider the code of practice, that goes back to what we said earlier about its duties as a public body and what it must bear in mind in any future consideration. If you look at all that in the round, that should give confidence that people will have a good enough working relationship with NatureScot to be able to develop the practices that we want to be delivered.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

NatureScot’s inclusion was part of the deer working group’s advice—that is who recommended it. I disagree that there would be a conflict of interest. This line of questioning makes it feel as though the purpose of the bill is to come in with a big stick—it is not; it is about our ability to work collaboratively.

There is no way that the Government, NatureScot or any other individual body will immediately be able to tackle the challenges of deer management on its own. It will have to be collaborative. There can be someone from NatureScot with particular expertise sitting on a panel, but they will not necessarily have to sit on every panel. In fact, I am not even sure how many panels we have at the moment. I think that one was set out in 2018 for a deer management group in lowland Scotland.

I do not see having expertise on a panel as a conflict of interest; I see it as enabling us to get the best decisions that we can on how to manage deer.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

That is a good point. We can take a further look at that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

It is important to remember that NatureScot will not just turn up at the door one day and give a five-day notice; there will have been plenty of engagement beforehand. The current notice period sits at 14 calendar days, and the proposal in the bill is five working days. The period has been shortened, because there is a general understanding that although there is a process to go through, if something needs to be done, and quickly, a five-day period will be adequate, particularly as NatureScot will have tried to engage with whoever it is has the problem on their land.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

NatureScot can do that anyway. It can de-escalate a control order if it believes that things are being done in the appropriate manner.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Jim Fairlie

The venison dealer licence was not about food safety; it was to prevent poaching. If venison is being sold, it will be sold with the same rigour as any other game. Building confidence is more about us marketing the product. There was some confusion about Food Standards Scotland’s position, but it is quite comfortable about us moving the venison dealer licence because there will still be the rigour that there would be for any food product that goes into the human food chain.

There is a far bigger issue about how we market that product as something that we want people to eat. Removing an extra 50,000 head of deer a year is one thing, but we should see that as an opportunity rather than as a problem and we should be saying that venison is another iconic Scottish food that we can celebrate. I will do everything that I can to ensure that we get to that position.