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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Before we came here, we had a fairly extensive meeting to talk about a lot of those issues. One of the things that came out of that meeting was that we wanted to ask the committee what it thought. We do not have the exclusive rights to knowledge and information, and I am more than happy to hear ideas from the committee. If the committee thinks that that suggestion has great value, let us have a look at it. We could do an audit if it would be of value.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I do not know whether we are doing enough, but we are certainly doing plenty. Is the work going fast enough? I cannot give you a direct answer to that right now—Terry Shevlin might know more than I do. We are alive to the fact that we must ensure that island connectivity is at the forefront of our thinking. Loganair, which was at the round table that I hosted in the summer with Ms Hyslop, is clearly the biggest player in that area. The work with ZeroAvia, which Terry mentioned, is on-going. An awful lot of work is going on; whether it is going fast enough remains to be seen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

We have talked about that. I will turn to Terry Shevlin.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I missed the first part of what you said about lifeline services.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I see—gotcha. Terry Shevlin has had more conversations about the timeline with UK Government officials than we have. My understanding is that we are no further forward and it is still being looked at.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

As I have said, it will be for airlines to work out how they will continue to provide air travel.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

Let me answer so that Terry Shevlin does not have to. Terry speaks as a Government official, but when it comes to adding value as a Government minister, I can say that I will be pushing as hard as I possibly can to ensure that Scottish interests are very high on the agenda in anything that goes forward from here.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

There are already issues with us not being given information in time. How do we know what the detail will be when we are looking at something that could be 10 years down the line? It is important that we protect the right of this Parliament to be able to have a say on things that will touch on devolution.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am optimistic that we will get a satisfactory conclusion. I will leave it at that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

The UK Government accepts that the clauses touch on devolution but, at the same time, it says, “We do not really need to bother you with it.” Clause 1 is about revenue certainty contracts that will be set over a 10-year period. We have no idea what will happen between now and then—the vast majority of us will not be sitting in this Parliament in 10 years’ time. It is only right that, for devolved areas, this Parliament has the right to say, “Okay, what does that actually mean?” We have no idea what changes there will be or what the outcomes will be of the various discussions that are going on within the UK and globally as to how SAF will develop.

The UK Government’s position is that, “The bill is about a technical thing and we do not need to worry you about it.” Why would we not just consent if the issue were that small? The only reason why a Scottish minister or the Scottish Parliament would refuse consent would be if there were a concern. If the UK Government says to us, “These are minor technical issues and you don’t need to worry about them,” we will agree—if they are minor technical issues.

Convener, I remember you raising the issue about members not getting the time to scrutinise things properly—I believe that you raised that in the chamber last week.