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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

No. There will be the potential of force majeure in particular instances—I am not going to go through all the hypotheticals in that respect—but there will be no mitigation for, say, a cow that happened to have cost 15,000 guineas getting penalised in year 2, because she did not have a calf in year 1. Those will be business decisions for farmers. We are looking at the national herd on a national basis and at how we can bring the whole herd’s emissions down. The best way of doing that is, as we have already decided, through the calving interval. There will be no individual interventions for high-value cows just because they have a high value.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

Force majeure issues will be dealt with as individual cases at the time. However, the other point that Rhoda Grant made, which is important to talk about, is that the quantum of money for the sector is not going to go down—it is what it is. I think that that pot of money is sitting at £40 million. If farmers have fewer calves that are being claimed on, the value of the calves that are claimed on will be higher. Therefore, this is a way of taking out of the system cows that are not producing calves, with the calves that are born getting a higher payment. The process might not balance itself out exactly, but it will certainly be a better payment for an individual calf that is born—rather than a calf that was not born, if that makes sense.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

I will ask John Armour to come in on that. He was part of the discussions with the stakeholder group, so he might be able to answer in a way that will give you some satisfaction.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

As I said, I will not go through all the potential force majeure issues. However, let me make this point—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

Is that correct?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

I have my own thoughts on that, but I will let John Armour answer.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

At the moment, the median average for 2021 is 400 days, but if we can bring that down further without causing damage to the herd, that would be a good thing, because it would mean that we would be even more efficient.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

I am quite happy to meet the member separately, outwith the committee session, but it is way beyond what we are looking at right now.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

Okay—we will take that away. Brian Service has heard everything that you have said.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 November 2024

Jim Fairlie

No, but I will pass over to Brian Service with regard to where that sits.