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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

I take the point about flexibility, but I emphasise the fact that we have to get local authorities to implement the measure.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

The point about whether we use targets or outcomes is really interesting. When East Ayrshire Council started on its journey and employed the hungry for success programme, I remember very clearly that it went all out to ensure that it did all the things to meet the gold standard. I know that Argyll and Bute Council did the same, but other local authorities chose not to go down the same road. Are our current food procurement practices a hindrance? Does the national plan need to ensure that local authorities employ their own local plan so that there is take-up and it is not really voluntary, if that makes sense? I might not be being clear in what I am saying. I will come to Mark Hunter first.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

I understand that it is difficult for a small producer to go to a local authority. Do the current public procurement practices allow for SMEs and smaller producers to be brought in? Should the national plan say that local authorities must have such engagement to provide the good food nation objectives?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

In an ideal world, more fruit and vegetables would be grown in Glasgow so that the supply chain could be shortened. NPF4 would then become important.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes. In effect, you had very restricted powers with a bigger pot of money and now you have much more powers with a restricted pot of money.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to go back to what Rachael Hamilton talked about, and the aspiration. I remember from my early years of involvement in the issue that public procurement used to be about pence per unit. Now, it is about value for every pound that is spent, as opposed to being based on the price. What we are trying to do is a big thing. It is a cultural shift, and I am pretty sure that at the moment the bill has provisions for a review after two years. Given the number of local authorities across the country and the diversity in where they are starting from, is two years long enough for us to be able to start on the road, get it implemented, look at the situation and see what changes we need to make to take things further?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

Mark, do you have views on that?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

Indeed. Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to touch on how the scheme differs from the European maritime and fisheries fund. The instrument broadens the scope of financial support that was previously available under the EMFF to include, for example, conservation, and the enhancement or restoration of the marine and aquatic environment. I understand that you have a current funding pot of about £14 million through the marine fund Scotland and that money is coming out of the UK seafood fund as well. The EMFF provided about €108 million. Do you have a funding figure in mind for the new scheme? How does that compare with the funding amount for EMFF? How would your proposed scheme operate within the UK internal market? To what extent will the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 constrain your choices?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 February 2022

Jim Fairlie

Can I stop you there for one wee second? If you are short of that amount of money but you are saying that you have greater scope to act, does that not mean that your ability to fund will be much more limited? You will be funding more areas but with a smaller pot. How will you make that work?