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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

The point that Paul Neison has just made relates to exactly that. Extensive engagement has taken place right across the country. Our rural payments and inspections division colleagues have worked at all the shows across the country, asking people to engage with the process, so that they understand what is coming. The Government has been very clear. I have said many times in the committee and other public forums that people need to get themselves into the mindset that those changes are coming and to start being aware of what those changes are.

The rural payments and inspections division and other Scottish Government teams have been available. Extensive consultation has taken place and people have had extensive ability to find out the information. We are making the process as simple as possible but, ultimately, the farmers must engage. They have to decide that they will get that information, because it is part of what they will have to do.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

John, do you have any indication as to why that would be the case?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

That is duly noted. As far as I can tell, the announcement that we would bring in the derogation gave the community comfort that we had taken on board their concerns, but I take on board the point that you have made.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

No. What we are debating today is the requirement to bring more people into greening on the 5 per cent of land that is currently subject to EFA and then deliver the increase to 7 per cent in 2027.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

It is purely a compromise, on the basis that 5 per cent was doing a decent job and 7 per cent will improve things even more. Depending on the objectives, 10 per cent would go even further towards meeting them. We thought that the 7 per cent figure was a stable and suitable compromise to reach at this stage.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

What we are delivering is exactly what we are debating today, which is the enhanced greening proposals. You say that there is a void, but we have made substantial changes, including the requirements for the whole-farm plan, the calving interval and the peatlands changes. If you are the farmer who is going to be delivering all of that on the ground, it will feel a little bit different to what it might feel like to someone who is sitting on the committee.

I go back to the point that I made right at the start. We are asking our farming community to come with us on this journey. We are making it as simple as we possibly can and giving them as much support as we possibly can, and we will keep on delivering the changes that we are asking them to make as time progresses, in conjunction with the conversations that we are having with the sector.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

If you have options that you think should be included in that list, please put them to us.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

At this moment in time, that is what I am discussing, yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

We have put in four options for enhanced screening because they are the options that people will be able to buy into and with which people will come with us on that journey.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Jim Fairlie

From day 1, we have always said that we will try to do this with the industry at a pace that suits it and that will allow it and those who are farming on the ground to come with us. You will be well aware that the NFU has already written to the committee to say that increasing the EFA level to 7 per cent would be going too fast, but others are telling us that we are going too slowly. We are trying to have deep and meaningful conversations about what we are trying to achieve. Everyone knows what we are trying to achieve and what we would like to deliver: our vision is for sustainable, regenerative agriculture that allows farmers to continue to produce food and rural communities to thrive, while, at the same time, enhancing nature, protecting our biodiversity and reducing our emissions. Everyone has that vision in their heads. However, getting there with everyone on board is difficult, because there will always be pushback.

I ask the committee to clear the SSI that we are discussing today on the basis that it proposes increasing the requirement so that EFAs will cover 5 per cent of land for more people in 2026 and moving that to 7 per cent in 2027, so that we bring more people into the scheme. The committee will be aware that some people are saying, “Hold on—that’s too much and too fast,” but for others it is not going fast enough.

It will take time to deliver those changes at a pace that allows the farming community, which we are asking so much of, to keep up. I am not trying to dodge the question; we just need to ensure that the industry comes with us.