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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Programme

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

I will direct my questions specifically to two witnesses. My first question is for Eman Hani. You said that you need grass-roots organisations to deliver the message into communities. We have sat in this committee before and been told that that is already happening. Are you telling us that it is not?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Programme

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

Thank you. We can put that to the Government. Mohammed, you gave a similar message. You said that some of the older people in the Islamic faith certainly believe that, if it is God’s will, it will happen—that caught my attention. Please forgive my ignorance of your faith, because I really do not know enough about it, but is there not also a message in Islam about looking after one other, which getting the vaccine would help with?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Programme

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

I am sticking with Mohammed. I recently attended a Sikh women’s organisation briefing session in which they talked about a very gendered society. I did not understand what they meant by that until they explained it. You spoke about how the head of a large family could end up influencing the entire family. How do we get to those individuals in order to be able to get the vaccine into more arms?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

We should ask about capacity in order to know what volume will be stored. In addition, will there be a market trigger for when the meat can be released back into the food chain?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

On carbon trading, I see real barriers in the way. If a farmer is net zero, he does not have anything to sell: he is net zero. If he has a surplus, he can trade it. We need to be very careful about this.

I am sorry, convener; I am hogging the microphone.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

I am aware of the time, convener, so I will leave my questions there.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

Dieter, you are a fantastic witness. I have been engrossed in everything that you have said, but, if I was still farming, I would be thinking, “Oh my God, I hope he doesn’t develop the policy or we’re not going to get a penny.” I might be completely misrepresenting what you say.

I would like to raise a couple of points with you. Another thing that I have got out of the conversation is that we can talk in silos and it sounds great until we start to bring in the unintended consequences. You have given us so much to think about. I have thoroughly enjoyed your evidence.

Correct me if I am wrong, but food costs us in subsidy from the public purse, in land degradation and environmental damage or in the consumer paying for it from their purse when they buy it in the shops. The current subsidy system was introduced after the second world war. About 30 per cent of household income used to go on food, but now it is about 8.5 per cent. Therefore, it could be argued that the public value of the subsidy is the fact that food is cheap. However, the counter to that is that we can buy much cheaper food from Australia or America, for instance, and the question is whether the price of the subsidy out of the consumers’ pockets will still be met by bringing in cheap food from elsewhere. That is a short statement but it is a huge question. How do we square that?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

My question is about Eilidh Mactaggart’s role in relation to what is going to be funded.

Dieter Helm talked about the possibility of investments in land in Scotland being handled by a trust fund that would have environmental concerns and sequestration as prerequisites for the initiatives that received funding. Do you see the Scottish National Investment Bank as the vehicle for that, so that any private funds that come into land in Scotland come through you and are then distributed via that one-stop shop in order to achieve the environmental aims, rather than there being what he described as a wild west free-for-all?

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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Climate and Nature Emergencies

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Jim Fairlie

We have got the big ideas, the big visions and all the rest of it, but there is concern that market-based mechanisms such as carbon credits are fuelling the attractiveness of purchasing land for carbon offsetting. That potentially brings risks to local communities and other land users. On 30 September, the Scottish Parliament held a members’ business debate on community wealth and the emergence of green lairds, in which the impact of carbon markets on land and land ownership was discussed.

My question is for Eilidh Mactaggart and then for Pat Snowdon. How can we avoid greenwashing by major companies coming into Scotland and buying up natural capital without any great benefit to the people who live here?