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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Jake Swindells has clearly understood my thought process.

If we take out the use of a dog to flush rabbits, we are then limited to using either guns or nets. I will play devil’s advocate. Why do you not net whenever you are doing a warren? In that way, you would take out the use of guns and dogs, so why not net everything?

I will let Barrie Wade go with that one, because I see that he is smiling wryly.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to pick up on something that Ian Duncan Millar said about the community getting together to surround a piece of woodland. One of the issues that I brought up last week with officials was whether it would be better to specify a minimum number of guns as opposed to a minimum number of dogs. If we are being absolutely honest, the bill is trying to stop the situation where a hunt is set up with riders and two guns at either end of a huge plantation and a fox gets through, at which point the hunt can go after it with hounds and horses. That is what the loophole is about, and we are as well to be honest about it. Is there value in a method that specifies a number of guns for a specific area in order to close that loophole, and not limit the number of dogs?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to ask about people who carry out your kind of fox control who are not part of your organisation—I know that that happens in other parts of the country. Are you saying that the only people who should have licences are those working under organisations such as yours? If I am a farmer with a fox problem and there is a guy down the road with 15 hounds and we have 15 neighbours, can we flush that fox out? Should only organisations such as yours have a licence?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Sorry, will you say that again?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Do you have a limit? Last week, officials said that they thought that a loss level of 10 per cent was an acceptable level at which to take action. Do you have a limit, whereby you say, “Okay—you’ve now had so many lambs killed that we’ll do something about it,” or is it an immediate response?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay, but the primary function of your in-hand farming is not to be profitable; it is to—

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

I will come back with another question later on.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

This is purely an observation, but I would say that the groups involved are coming at this from different environments. I absolutely take on board everything that the RSPB does, Duncan, but although we might be talking about a particular land mass, the environment that you are concerned with and the objectives that you are working towards are just not the same as those for land managers. Is that not a fair point?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

But you have no foxes on Islay.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 June 2022

Jim Fairlie

Okay. Thank you.