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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have one final question. I have concerns about the reports in The Guardian in the past week that the UK Government is talking about changing the system in England, that the environmental land management scheme may be discarded and that there might be a return to area payments. If that happens, will it affect the budget that comes to Scotland in relation to agriculture?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Jim Fairlie

I want to go back to multiyear budgeting. Is it because funding is allocated to you on a year-on-year basis that you cannot give multiyear funding to local authorities?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

What kind of body would the centre for pandemic preparedness be? Would it be, say, a statutory body or a non-departmental public body? How do you envisage it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

When you say that that tax position will not hold, can you explain what you mean?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Dr Hardt also said that council tax reform

“is long overdue, because the current system is regressive. We know that the Scottish Government has powers over income tax bands, but it has not made a lot of use of them.”

I am not quite sure what he meant by that, but perhaps you might. Dr Hardt went on to say that

“Even if there might be good reasons for such an approach not being considered in more detail,”

he was surprised that more information on raising finances was not there, given that

“It is a five-year spending review”.—[Official Report, COVID-19 Recovery Committee, 22 September 2022; c 25.]

Is that a criticism that you accept?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

At last week’s meeting, we heard from Sarah Watters from COSLA, who said:

“Not only is demand for services increasing because of all the crises that are out there—in social care, business support and all sorts of areas that local government touches—but the cost of providing services is huge because of inflationary pressures.”—[Official Report, COVID-19 Recovery Committee, 22 September 2022; c 2.]

Mairi Spowage referred—before it happened, obviously—to the “United Kingdom fiscal event” on 23 September, saying:

“There will be huge implications for the Scottish budget if the UK Government decides to fundamentally change taxes in England”,

which, as we know, is what happened. She went on to say:

“That could mean ... a boost ... to the Scottish budget envelope”,

but

“We do not know how much detail we are going to get about spending plans, which could obviously have consequentials. There is not only huge pressure, but huge uncertainty ... I worry about whether we will have enough detail to give more certainty to the Scottish Government and local government.”—[Official Report, COVID-19 Recovery Committee, 22 September 2022; c 6.]

The Chief Secretary to the Treasury, to whom I listened this morning, did not provide any more clarity, other than to say that spending decisions will be tight, regardless of the budget envelope that comes to the Scottish Government.

Could you expand on that issue, to help us to understand it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Last week, we also heard from Dr Lukas Hardt, who is the policy and engagement lead at the Wellbeing Economy Alliance Scotland. He stressed the importance of the Scottish Government’s using existing devolved tax powers to support provision of further services, and said that it might struggle to address inequalities

“within the funding envelope that it has set out”.

He also said:

“I am a bit surprised that such limitations on funding are so readily accepted, given the powers of the Scottish Government—for example, its devolved power over local taxes. There are possibilities for thinking outside the box ... and ... challenging the idea, ‘This is the money we have’.”—[Official Report, COVID-19 Recovery Committee, 22 September 2022; c 5.]

Are there areas in which you are not thinking outside the box?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 29 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

Do you mean that the UK Government might need to reverse it?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

I am fine. I do not have a question.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jim Fairlie

We have talked about multiyear funding and putting the pipeline in place, but we already know that the Scottish Government has a £1.7 billion deficit in its funding. What reassurances do you have that you can continue to put the funding in place? Given that the Government now has to pay for massive wage inflation and we are trying to help people with the cost of living crisis, it will cut budgets—there is simply no doubt about that. Do you have any assurances that you can continue with the funding programme?