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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have a final, small point on the loss and inactivity of over-50s. Louise Murphy might want to jump in on it. It feels to me like the workforce is losing a huge amount of experience if those people have dropped out of the labour market and are not coming back again. Louise Murphy said that we should not bother chasing them, but I counter that by saying that we are losing decades of experience from the workforce, so should we not try to get those people back into the labour market?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I have a quick supplementary to that—Hannah Randolph and Tony Wilson might be best placed to answer it.

We have talked about employment churn and workforce churn in areas such as agriculture, hospitality and the care sector, where people have stopped working for a period of time and then thought, “Actually, my previous lifestyle doesn’t suit me any more.” Hannah, in your submission, you say:

“People will be encouraged to re-enter the labour market if they see a healthy, buoyant jobs market.”

Someone could walk into any pub, club or care home anywhere in the country right now and be offered a job, because they are crying out for people. How do we square the facts that employers are desperate for workers but some people are in the inactivity grouping that we are discussing in our inquiry?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes, but it always used to be able to fill vacancies.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Does Steve Fothergill want to add to that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

That is an interesting take; I will regurgitate that one at a later date.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

That slightly concerns me, with regard to industries such as hospitality and the care service. Creating flexibility in such jobs will be especially difficult given that workers have to be there.

Louise Murphy, do you want to come in on that point?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Before you go on to your third point, I want to say that that is a really important point. Sectors need to work to re-attract people. You used to be able to fill a job in hospitality pretty rapidly, but now you cannot, because people have moved. They might not be out of the labour market, but that sector is suffering.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Yes.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Common Frameworks

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

Without labouring it, that was exactly the point that I was making: there is already close collaboration on those things. Therefore, we are still talking about what is in the paper.

Moving on, does the Scottish Government have an understanding of the policy divergence that will be accepted within the common frameworks and how that divergence will be assessed?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Common Frameworks

Meeting date: 2 November 2022

Jim Fairlie

I clearly remember, back in 2016, asking the head of the Tory party in Scotland and David Mundell where the governance for agriculture would lie post-EU exit only to be told that far more power would be coming to Scotland. That was the repeated mantra: far more power would be coming to Scotland.

We have the decision-making policy with regard to the new agricultural support system. However, with the UK Government bringing in the Subsidy Control Act 2022, do you have any concerns that what we are trying to do in Scotland could fall foul of that legislation?