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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I have a supplementary question for Vicki Swales. It seems to me that that is where some of the tension is coming from. Farmers want to produce food and to do that sustainably, but other parts of the ARIOB are concerned about biodiversity and climate change. Where do you sit?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

[Inaudible.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Thank you, convener—you took me by surprise there.

There are key areas of uncertainty around future policy. Tim, you touched on the subject of data, and there is an issue around where the research gaps are. Martin, you seemed to be disagreeing with Vicki Swales when she was talking about the LFA side of things. What are the differences there as regards what the ARIOB should be doing? What areas of research is the ARIOB using to help to develop the policy?

I will start with you, Martin, as I have cited your comments on LFA. I will come to you after that, Vicki.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I will make one comment. It is not a question; it is a comment. What concerned me about the evidence that we got last week from the CCC was the use of the word “probably” in relation to reducing the amount of greenhouse gas that is being sequestered.

I have a question for Martin Kennedy. We are talking about uncertainty in future policy. You have said in the past that 97 per cent of the funding comes from the UK Government. If that stops in 2024 or if there is no certainty about it, where do you see us going?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

How does that feed into ensuring that there is a critical mass of numbers?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I will come back to you, Vicki, but I will ask the whole panel a question. Given the explanation that Martin Kennedy has just given, and given that there is a wide range of stakeholders on the ARIOB, is there general consensus on where you are and how you will go forward?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Are those differences on policy detail causing part of the delay?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

I will come to you, Vicki, I promise, but I just want to explore this point for a wee second.

If the LFA support is altered in a way that does not support producing calves, those calves are then sold down the country. That, in itself, helps the quality of the soil further down the country. Are you saying that it is not just about keeping people where they are, and that the support builds into the whole thing of how we maintain the carbon in all soils, not just in the hill soil?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

So, we are looking at a critical mass plus—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 8 March 2023

Jim Fairlie

Yes, but if there are not enough cattle on the ground in the first place, that system falls down. I graze cattle on the hills, so I fully understand your position, but how does not having enough numbers on the ground support the critical mass as well as high nature value farming?