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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I will now bring in other members.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

We have about 10 minutes left. I invite Fulton MacGregor to ask questions, followed by Russell Findlay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will step outside the bill for a moment. I have become interested in what sort of conduct brings officers to the attention of the PSD or, if it is a higher bar, the PIRC. We understand police assault and other traditional types of allegations. I am thinking more about the issues and challenges that are bearing down on police officers in the 21st century. Are you seeing any shift in the sorts of issues that are impacting police officers and staff compared to, say, 10 years ago?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

That is fascinating. It is interesting to hear about some of the types of behaviours that are coming to your attention more than previously. Can you say anything about the demographics of that? Are the officers younger or older?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I call Pauline McNeill.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Are you referring to Lady Elish Angiolini? She is not the Lord Advocate.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

My final question is about timescales. Do you agree that Police Scotland should respond to the PIRC鈥檚 recommendations within specific timescales? Is that feasible? Is it possible? Is it challenging?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I bring the session to a close鈥攊t has been helpful, so thank you very much indeed. We now move into private session.

12:43 Meeting continued in private until 13:02.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. We raised the issue of public trust and confidence, which you spoke about at the beginning of your answer, with the SPA. Are there provisions in the bill that would enhance public trust and confidence? One of the witnesses in the previous session spoke about the call-in provision and the code of ethics, which he felt was of particular value. I am interested in whether there are parts of the bill that are important for public trust and confidence.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Nicky Page, do you have further comments to add?