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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I want to come in on something that we spoke about with the earlier witnesses, which is inefficiencies across the criminal justice system that impact on police staffing and budgets. We spoke about that in the context of court time. In addition to the work that Police Scotland is doing with other parts of the sector, I am interested in hearing from you a wee bit more detail on how you are supporting the effort to pull out the inefficiencies in respect of court time or, indeed, other challenges.

Criminal Justice Committee

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is the selection of a new deputy convener. The Parliament has agreed that only members of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist party are eligible for nomination as deputy convener of the committee. I understand that Liam Kerr is that party’s nominee for the post and I invite members to agree that we appoint him as our new deputy convener.

Liam Kerr was chosen as deputy convener.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

That is helpful. I move to other members, because I know that there is a lot to cover and our time is limited.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I want to come in on the back of one of Ben Macpherson’s questions, on borrowing powers. James Gray, you gave a helpful answer and a bit more detail on the on-going discussions with officials and, in your written evidence, you quoted a figure of £200 million that you would be looking to borrow. Has there been any discussion about the practicalities of that? How would it work? Who would you be borrowing from, and who would cover risk if there was a default? What about interest payments? I am thinking more of the practicalities. Have you reached that point yet?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much. That brings this evidence session to a close. I thank all our panel members. We will have a short suspension to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:26 Meeting suspended.  

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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Our next witnesses are representatives of the Scottish Police Authority. I welcome Martyn Evans, the chair; Ms Lynn Brown, the chief executive; and Ms Fiona Douglas, the director of forensic services.

I intend to allow around about 60 minutes for the evidence session. Martyn, I will ask you the opening question to set the scene before we move to questions from members.

This morning, the committee has been listening to evidence from Police Scotland, but what does the SPA consider to be the main financial challenges that Police Scotland and your organisation face? What is the position with regard to the SPA’s advice to the Scottish Government on the budget resource that is needed for policing, given the scenarios that the Scottish Government has asked Police Scotland to model?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

With that, I open questions up to members. I will bring in Liam Kerr and then Rona Mackay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I call Sharon Dowey, to be followed by Pauline McNeill.

Criminal Justice Committee

European Union Legislation

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a letter that we have received from the convener of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. I refer members to paper 3.

As no member has any comment to make on the content of the paper or the attached letter from the convener, do members agree that we should write to the Scottish Government to ask about its intentions in the light of the new European Union directive on anti-trafficking measures?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

European Union Legislation

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Audrey Nicoll

That completes our business in public today.

12:38 Meeting continued in private until 13:02.