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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

There is a lot in that. I appreciate that you cannot go into detail at the moment about any amendments that are likely to be lodged, but can you give us an idea of what those might look like? In your opening statement, you said that we are at an early stage in developing, and, I hope, improving, the overall scheme. To what extent will the amendments that you lodge get us started on the journey towards having a fully established scheme? I appreciate that some of the amendments will be a bit technical and almost preparatory.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Indeed. Thank you for that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That is helpful.

As there are no more questions, we will bring the evidence session to a close. Minister, I thank you and your officials for coming this morning. Your evidence has been very helpful.

That completes our business in public today.

10:59 Meeting continued in private until 11:36.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 39th meeting in 2024 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have apologies from Rona Mackay.

Our main item of business is to take evidence from the Minister for Victims and Community Safety on the Scottish Government鈥檚 plans for amendments to the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill in relation to the victim notification scheme.

We have agreed to hold this evidence session because the Scottish Government is proposing to include important new provisions in the bill. As a reminder, today鈥檚 meeting will focus only on proposed amendments relating to the victim notification scheme. We will invite the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs to a future meeting to give evidence on the Government鈥檚 intentions for stage 2 in relation to the rest of the bill.

Siobhian Brown, the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, is accompanied by Lucy Smith from the victims and witnesses unit, Mari Bremner from the forensic mental health team and Jasmin Hepburn from the Scottish Government legal directorate. Welcome to you all.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I intend to allow around 60 minutes for this panel of witnesses. Before we get into questions, I invite the minister to make some opening remarks.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Finally, what timescales are we looking at for the establishment of the new VNS?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I want to come in with a quick practical question, before I bring in Pauline McNeill. We are talking about victims, and there is a referral process. What would be the starting point for that process鈥攚ould it be Police Scotland, or the fiscal?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I know that I should have known that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Katy Clark again in a moment, but I want to ask about the CORO victim notification scheme鈥攁s it has been known鈥攚hich exists specifically to support the victims of patients in the forensic mental health system who are subject to compulsion orders and restriction orders. I am interested in what your vision is for that group of victims, who, I imagine, are in a sometimes slightly more complex space.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

We have spoken quite a bit about trauma-informed practice within the VNS. As the minister will know, part 2 of the bill sets out the provisions for the justice system becoming trauma informed. Can you provide the committee with an assurance that the contact team that we have been speaking about this morning will be trauma informed and that training will be provided to the team members?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I have a final question before we bring the evidence session to an end. When we consider the support that can be offered to victims, we are aware that there is often a family around that victim. Has any consideration been given in the work that you have been doing of the implementation of the review recommendations with respect to whether the provisions of a victim notification scheme could be extended to the whole family network?